Re: Vaccine taken off the mkt. because of poor sales-HUH?

On May 27, 3:11 pm, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 27, 3:19 pm, chronichel...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On May 27, 12:00 pm, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> On May 26, 3:15 pm, chronichel...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Then why would he state that the vaccine was pulled because of
activist-generated fears that resulted in spurious litigation threats?

Maybe because (and this is pure speculation) he was part of that
disaster (inadvertently) and his acceptance of this will give grounds
to many people that received the vaccine (and didn't develop any
symptoms) to file personal injury for non-specific symptoms.

I think that the class action settlement closed the window on that
possibility...that others could file.

This as

well will give more ammo to people with non specific symptoms to
assert that it was due to undiagnosed lyme disease, i.e. people with
rheumatoid arthritis will claim that in one of their trips they
"probably" got infected with Lyme (even if this trip was to Ecuador).

Okay, well...but WHY mention it all? In other words, he chose to bring
it up, himself...(and in a really strange way...sour-grapes over the
vaccine in a commencement address)? Wouldn't it have been smarter just
to keep quiet on the subject and talk in general terms about the quest
for sceintific truth verus mass hysteria...without going into the
mindnumbing details of the vacccine demise? (the assembled grads, no
doubt worried about where they were going to party that night, must
have been captivated).

I agree it is odd, like you said not the smartest idea. I think he
felt pressured to say that to counter the publicity that has arisen
due to A.G's investigation. Is wrong in the sense that he want to
already condition the student to not think for themselves (which you
would be amazed how often that happens, also in science but is not as
pervasive).


In other words, if the vaccine caused a "Lyme-like syndrome" in some
patients, I would have to think that would be a legitimate reason to
file personal injury claims.

I though that was the case. Meaning that people did file for personal
injury claims, I'm not sure, but I thought that the company had
actually settled with some of those people.

Yes. And my understanding is that settlement forecloses the
possibility of any further claims against the vaccine manufacturers.





Seems like he is denying this...both publically and personally,
intellectually.

Ironically, that will go in turn to validate the hypothesis

that people will develop severe illness even after the infection has
been cleared up, and hence long term use of antibiotics has very
little therapeutic. Hopefully this will result in more research put
into understanding this phenomenon.-

Yes, I follow this...what you say here...but I'm unsure that Steere
(or Kathleen) does.

Well actually I think they both do, they just don't want to accept it
publically. An alternative solution would be to have a vaccine that
uses a different protein of the bacteria. Then everybody will be happy
(except for the ones already sick) and we could just put this on the
past (sort of mentality in Steere case). Kathleen is more about
vengeance due to information that hasn't been presented in all honesty
by the "establishment" (IDSA), so it doesn't matter if it chronic
infection or autoimmune condition but more a matter of undiagnosed
lyme (and the abuses she had to go through).

(All you have to do to get K, to go bouncing off the walls, BTW...is
mention "Steere" and "vaccine" in the same sentence...it's like
throwing a couple of pounds of hamburger in the hyena cage at the Zoo).

Yes :)

what is your though about that 3rd? was the vaccine really withdrawn
because of poor sales?

No. Not buying that one at all.

I am just guessing also...but my experience tends to indicate to me,
that it was pulled, because of fear of liability exposure...and NOT
just the threat of a large amount of litigation.

I'm not sure I understand this one very well, wouldn't liability
exposure mean larger threat of litigation?


But what has also struck me as somewhat strange about that whole
episode, is the lack of a rationale for a vaccine, in general...how
the underplaying of the signifigance of the disease worked against it
being commercially viable, in the first place.

Simply...if I am concerned about the possibility of contracting Lyme
disease...well, hell...from what I can gather, it is easily cured with
a short course of antibiotics...and you get a nice big, rash that
says, "hey, you've got it"...(at least that was pretty much what they
were saying at that time).

So why run the risk of multiple injections of god only knows what?

You know, the proscratinator's logic...deal with that rash when I
actually get one...they consistently downplayed the threat of the
disease, to the point where there may not have been a good market for
it.

Well if I was with the IDSA (watch out for the paranoics). I will
argue that even though lyme infection is easily treated, it is
possible to cause extensive damage if underdiagnosed. For that reason
better safe than sorry, get your vaccine.

Dunno.

.

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