Re: "Statins caused my kidney failure"

From: Herman Rubin (hrubin_at_odds.stat.purdue.edu)
Date: 07/15/04 

Date: 15 Jul 2004 10:17:21 -0500

In article <EJhJc.1427$4L7.411@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
Bill <xxx@yy.zz> wrote:

>"Zee" <zwalanga@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
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>Ok. Here you go. There are numerous reports on statins saving lives. But even
>if I take your source, who does not seem to have medical credentials, in the
>article you quoted, here is what she says:

>"Statins clearly benefit diabetics and people with heart disease who want to
>avoid a heart attack or stroke, as well as those who have already suffered one
>and want to prevent another."

As I posted on the diabetes news group, this is true for the
"average" diabetic and possibly for the average patient who
has had a heart attack or stroke. But important factors were
not taken into account at all, at least in the ones I have
read. Statistical studies can be used to advise them, but
not the current ones, which are done simplistically. It is
not the case that one can ignore the hundreds (probably an
underestimate) of additional factors, and one cannot control
most of them in the studies. For example, on the amount of
LDL, I come out somewhat high, but on the ratio of LDL to HDL,
very definitely on the low side.

>http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/AlmostEverythingYouNeedtoKnowAboutStatinDrugs.html

>This is just from your source. I quoted another of your souces previously
>which said pretty much the same thing. And I could do more of strongly
>supporting the argument that statins save lives by strickly sticking to your
>sources.

>I accept the fact that statins can cause problems for people. You seem to have
>trouble accept the fact that statins can help a large class of people.

>Bill 

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