Re: Fusion of the best practices

From: severesocialanxiety (samappliance_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 08/15/04 

Date: 15 Aug 2004 15:48:48 -0700

Jay Tanzman <jtanzman@sph.llu.edu> wrote in message news:<2o9n39F81kgsU3@uni-berlin.de>...
> Jan wrote:
>
> > Jay Tanzman <jtanzman@sph.llu.edu> wrote in message news:<2o4813F6pht0U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> >
> >> From the article:
> >>
> >> > CONCLUSIONS --- Controlled clinical trials have also shown that
> >> > replacing saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat is more effective in
> >> > lowering serum cholesterol and reducing risk of CHD than simply
> >> > reducing total fat consumption.---"
> >>
> >>Soft margarine is alomst entirely polyunsaturated fat. Therefore, according
> >>to the article, replacing butter with margarine is a superior way to reduce
> >>CHD risk than simply eliminating butter from the diet. Therefore, how can you
> >>say that margarine is "bad?" You might argue that this doesn't apply to
> >>old-fashioned stick margarine because of the deleterious effect of trans fatty
> >>acids. However, if you bother to do the research, you'll see that the benefit
> >>of the PUFA outweighs the harm from TFA. That said, TFA-free soft margarines
> >>are better for you, and you'd have to be kind of an idiot to use hard
> >>margarine instead.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I do think that good margarine that does not contain trans fats is
> > better than butter. But I think that replacing both of them with extra
> > virgin, unprocessed vegetable oils is better than either of those. But
> > even better is to get the fats mostly from fresh natural sources e.g.
> > avocados, nuts and seeds. So what is so bad in this policy?
> >
> > I wish that people could find a more polite way of relating to others
> > in this group. That would surely raise the level of discussion and
> > make the involvement with this group more enjoyable.
>
> I wish people would find a more scientific way of responding. This is
> SCI.med.nutrition, after all.
>
> -Jay

i got lost hiking yesterday. i only had a about 1.5hr of light and 10
kms to go. fear. luckily, i was saved by two hikers. i keep weighing
myself but i have not lost weight. i ran around like a madman in thick
brush trying to find the god damn trail.i had a bad fall and saw my
finger get bent but it does not seem to be broken.

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