Re: Can we trust science research?

From: Wolfbrother (rangerhasten_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/21/04 

Date: 20 Sep 2004 21:45:53 -0700

tunderbar@hotmail.com (tcomeau) wrote in message news:<b550f406.0409020614.55317d2d@posting.google.com>...
> markd@toad-net.com wrote in message news:<41360117$0$21383$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com>...
> > One of the frequent themes here from those with a nutritional theology
> > bent is that following a guru with which one agrees compared to science
> > from faceless people is to be trusted. Unknown researchers recieve grant
> > support to do the research, this means the results are most likely false
> > because the research was made to show what is not reality on purpose.
> > This always brings a smile to my face. The way to answer as to to the
> > quality of the research is what was done and the analysis done to the
> > data. If one can find a flaw in either of these then the research can be
> > done again, that is the way science does it. There are no researchers who
> > don't do their work based on grants they recieve from someone. If fraud
> > and other such is found in specific individuals, it will be the scientific
> > community to yell loudest and longest about it. When instances of such
> > are found it is always almost the case that some flaw in the research was
> > found to tip others to consider problems of fraud. When someone shows
> > that a researcher gets grant money, big surprise, the only way to comment
> > on the quality of the research is the research itself. Doing a guilt by
> > association game is meaningless, except to guruism and anti science and
> > conspiracy notions that infest almost all nutritional theoly schemes.
>
> When a theory fails like the calorie has, one must seek another truth.
>
> The low-carb diet works. And is healthier than a low-calorie or
> low-fat diet.
>
> The food industry does everything it can to keep selling its crap.
>
> The pharma industry will do the same to sell their crap. And their
> success requires us to be sick. It is counter productive to their
> bottom line for us to be healthy and have a thorough understanding of
> the importance of good nutrition, as well what a healthy diet really
> is.
>
> More than 70% of all science being done today is paid for by industry.
> It is essentially all part of their marketing. It most definitively is
> not good science.
>
> Get them the *** out of science and we will be able to discuss this
> topic in a more scientific manner. Until then we will be stuck arguing
> about the various industry ties that each researcher and their
> respective studies have.
>
> TC

People are such fools it is sickening. These corporations control
medical research to increase their profit by promoting their toxic
fake foods while covering up their dangers and demonizing healthy non
profitable foods. Anyone who does not comprehend or accept these
simple facts are either ignorant fools or dupes. Anyone who does not
believe that people would poison an entire population for profit
simply do not understand human nature and have no understanding of the
facts and of the behavior of such industries and corporations
throughout history. All one has to do is investigate the facts and
examine the history of the corporate world. We are talking about
immorality and evil of the highest order. The same evil that
collaborated with Nazi Germany up to and even DURING world war 2.
Several hundred immoral US corporations like Ford and General Motors
had dealings with Germany including the grand father of our freakin
president. His family fortune was made by arming Hitler and
exploiting slave labor. This is the man running the United States.
There is NO LIMIT to what these corporate villains will do to satisfy
their greed. They are in possitions of immense power all the way up
to president of the USA. They count on the disbelief and gullibility
of the masses to operate unopposed. Does anyone really think people
who were more than willing to collaborate with Hitler for profit would
not be willing to do something as simple as poison the public and
cover it up? They are able to do this easily with the amount of
control they have over our society through government and media. They
have done a wonderful job of covering up their evil behavior during
world war 2 and beyond by keeping their corruption out of the media.
Why do you think almost no Americans know about these things. Where
do you think the TV networks and news media get their money? The same
place the medical research establishment does. Do you think they are
going to educate the public about the unimaginable evil and corruption
of so many American corporations? 99% of Americans probably hold the
delusional idea that Ford and General Motors are wholesome American
companies and that the Bush family are godly moral people. This is
the brain washing of the masses. These are the lies and cover up of
reality successfully dispensed upon an entire population. This
country is in the hands and under the control of an elite immoral and
evil few with immense wealth and power. That is the simple truth and
it is the unwillingness of the ignorant uncaring public that allows
them to remain in power and continue poisoning killing and controlling
the masses. This is accomplished easily with there near complete
control over the government and its many agencies as well as the few
major media outlets to dispense their lies and propaganda to the
public.

It comes down to this, the fabrication and manipulation of medical
research and the widespread lies and deception about health and food
pales in comparison to other, even more sinister actions taken by
multi billion dollar industries and corporations for the single goal
of increasing profit. People just need to wake up.