Re: QUACKS don't do research..or they LIE about it.. like the drug companies

From: Dunne E. Dawe (never_at_never.again)
Date: 10/27/04 

Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:49:56 +0800

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:22:55 -0700, "Robert" <RobertJ@hotmail.com>
posted:

>
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:30:30 -0700, "Robert" <RobertJ@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> snip...>
>> >How can you afford to give everyone everything they need when they need
>it.
>>
>> With a pool of 300 million people, it would be very simple. With price
>> controls, the costs would be even lower. With patent reform that did
>> not permit price gouging and misuse of the whole premise of patent
>> protection, discovery and options would actually improve. As it is,
>> licensing fees are rendering discovery much more difficult.
>>
>> George M. Carter
>>
>Many countries have single payer systems with socialistic health programs
>and drug control on pricing. The US does not have any of the above with the
>exception of Medicare.

And do the comparison. Australian heath care budget is lower than
America's per capita, and our care is better and universal!

>Show me the proof discoveries from those countries are so great in number.

Australia has more medical development per capita than most other
countries, US included.

>Free enterprise has made the US strong so your assumption that free market
>controls are good for business doesn't exists.

International feudalism is what has made America strong. Sheesh, some
folk are easy to fool all of the time :)

>China is learning that lesson
>with Hong Kong. Socialism only instills incompetence, apathy and allegiance
>to the state and not the individual.

So how do you explain Japan's allegiance to the state -- the community
instead of the individual? Look, folk who say that this system is good
and that is bad, fail to realise that NO country has extremes of these
systems. A mixed economy has been the only successful system so far.
What folk fail to realise also is that the parts of their system that
are not how they think the whole is are taken for granted and not
realised. For example, there are lots of socialistic parts of the US
system, but Americans are so used to them, they don't realise that
they are there. We ALL have mixed economies with small variations. The
US is unique in that is has not socialised its health care system like
just about everyone else, and has arguably the worst health care
system in the world, and pays considerably more for it.

>Those systems stagnate with time and
>after a few decades those countries that have single payer system are now
>suffering the affects of the problem and every single one is going belly up.

Name one.

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