Re: OT What a good man would say to the Arab nations.

From: Phil Scott (philscott888_at_sf.sbcglobal.net)
Date: 11/09/04 

Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:40:01 GMT

"Wolfbrother" <rangerhasten@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > > arkadya@aol.com (ARKADYA) wrote in message
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> > > > >BTW, I know your Administration wants you to confuse
the invasion of
> > > > >Iraq and terrorism, but everyone else but you can see
the difference,
> > > >
> > > > The invasion had nothing to do with terrorism or WMD
and I dont know why
> > > > europeans keep saying that. Are you guys in the
twilight zone. No one
> > here says
> > > > anything about that. We went in because Saddam wasnt
fullfilling his
> > agreement
> > > > of letting in inspectors according to the first gulf
war agreement. You
> > guys
> > > > believed Hans Blix. We knew Blix was a lying piece of
*** on Iraqi and
> > French
> > > > payroll
> > > > Never Forgive, Never Forget
> > > > 9-11-01
> > >
> > >
> > > You are the biggest dumb ass if you think that. Only
complete
> > > imbecile would buy into that BS. There are a few
reasons the US
> > > invaded Iraq and UN resolutions or whatever the hell you
think is
> > > certainly not one of them. Mainly of course it was
OIL!! That is the
> > > most obvious thing in the world. Also just as much a
reason was
> > > Saddam changing over to the euro to trade his oil. That
was a MAJOR
> > > reason for the invasion. I know your simple and
delusional mind can
> > > not comprehend the significance of that action so you of
course do not
> > > even consider it or any other real reason for invasion.
Getting a
> > > major foothold into the middle east is of course another
major reason
> > > for the invasion as it all comes down to controlling the
last
> > > remaining major sources of oil on the planet at this
crucial period
> > > when global peak oil production(and the end of our
modern economy) is
> > > quickly approaching.
> >
> > Why didn't they just buy it like everyone else?
> > Why is the price of oil so high then?
> > Why is it that when fossil fuel alternative technologies
were being
> > developed the oil countries dropped their oil prices down
making those
> > technologies non competitive on a cost basis?Don't they
know that the oil
> > won't last for ever and they should help with alternate
fuel?
> > If the US is staying in the Arab countries then what do we
do with the
> > Arabs? Send them to Canada?
>
> dude are you really that stupid? Are you actually being
serous when
> you ask those moronic questions? I guess I should answer
them since
> you really are probably that ignorant.
>
> > Why didn't they just buy it like everyone else?
>
> Like i said smart guy. Saddam was trading oil in euros.
Now im sure
> because of your limited understanding you may not grasp the
> significance of that fact but i am not going to take the
time to
> explain it all to you. But to make it short. If all the
worlds oil
> (or even just opec countries) was traded in Euros that would
basically
> mean the end of the US economy and the dollar. Now when
Saddam did
> that the US had to send a strong message that it is not
acceptable
> becasue the FACT is that the opec countries WOULD MAKE MORE
PROFIT IF
> THEY TRADED IN EUROS. The fact that they have not changed
over is
> because of US aggression. European countries do not
threaten the
> middle east but the US does. Even so Iran has been
considering it and
> you can bet the US will invade the second they do, if they
do.
>
>
> > Why is the price of oil so high then?
>
> Ok this one is easy enough for an imbecile to understand.
The world
> can no longer produce enough oil to keep up with not just
constantly
> rising demand but ACCELERATED rise in demand. This will
only get much
> much worse in the near future until it breaks the back of
the US
> economy and others. There is no getting around that. But
that is ok
> because we will have patriot acts 2,3,4,5 and who knows what
else in
> place to ensure the safety of the rulers with a police state
because
> you can bet there will be massive unrest. You did not think
that all
> that is to make us safer from terrorism now did you? No you
are not
> THAT dumb.
>
>
> > Why is it that when fossil fuel alternative technologies
were being
> > developed the oil countries dropped their oil prices down
making those
> > technologies non competitive on a cost basis?Don't they
know that the oil
> > won't last for ever and they should help with alternate
fuel?
>
> Well these are some really dumb questions. First of all YES
they know
> better than anyone that oil will not last. That is all the
more
> reason for them to hinder any alternative to oil. Do you
even attempt
> to use logical thought ever??? Help with alternate fuel???
My god you
> cant be serious. Do you realize just how much power will be
had by
> the people who control the last remaining reserves of oil IN
A WORLD
> THAT WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO PUT IN PLACE AN ALTERNATIVE TO IT.
>
> Here is a quote from someone who knows oil better than
almost anyone
> in the world and understands the full implications of peak
oil and
> where in the world it will peak last:
>
>
>
> "Producing oil is obviously a self-depleting activity. Every
year,
> you've got to find and develop reserves equal to your
output - just to
> stand still, just to stay even. This is true for companies
as well in
> the broader economic sense for the world.
>
> A new merged company like Exxon-Mobil will have to secure
over a
> billion and a half barrels of new oil equivalent reserves
every year
> just to replace existing production.
>
> It's like making a return of 100% interest on investment.
It's like
> discovering another major field of some 500 million barrels
every four
> months, or finding two Hibernia's [a major find off Canada]
a year.
>
> For the world as a whole, oil companies are expected to keep
finding
> and developing enough oil to offset our 71 million barrels a
day of
> oil depletion, and also to meet new demand.
>
> By some estimates, there will be an average of 2% annual
growth in
> global oil demand over the years ahead along with,
conservatively, a
> 3% natural decline in production from existing reserves.
That means by
> 2010, we will need in the order of an additional 50 million
barrels a
> day.
>
> So, where is the oil going to come from?
>
> Governments and the national oil companies obviously control
about 90%
> of the assets. Oil remains fundamentally a government
business. While
> many regions of the world offer great oil opportunities, the
Middle
> East with two thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost,
is still
> where the prize ultimately lies."
>
> -*** Cheney, during a speach in 1999 at the London
Petroleum
> Institute
>
>
> And you think its about terrorism. Pathetic. Especialy
considering
> these people are not even making much of an attempt to hide
their real
> intentions. They just count on morons like you.
>
>
> > If the US is staying in the Arab countries then what do we
do with the
> > Arabs? Send them to Canada?
>
> Kill them, obviously. And yes you can bet your ass that the
US will
> be staying in the middle east indefinitely. Iraq is only
the
> beginning. As you can see from Cheney's words the knowledge
of peak
> oil is well understood yet all that is talked about is how
to further
> their own interests by devising strategies on how and where
to get
> more oil DESPITE THE FACT IT WILL RUN OUT and not about what
a
> rational logical person with the interests of the masses at
heart,
> would talk about. Alternatives to oil!! It does not take a
genius to
> figure out the agenda and who it benefits. Certainly not
you moron.
> It is ABSOLUTELY clear from his speech where his interests
lie and
> that he is working for the good of the oil industry and not
the
> public. Forget the fact that oil will run out in the near
future.
> Our oil based economy will collapse LONG before oil is
anywhere near
> running out. The expense of production will be too high.
That
> production will produce less oil per day at that higher
cost. The
> demand will continue to rise. Face the facts and wake up.

Nice one.. very well stated.

There are rewards and penalties for every human condition...
for those with a few extra brain cells the penalty is to
grieve in utter astonishment and pain at the mass flow of
abject idiocy in the world...and levels of short sighted
corruption on both the smallest and largest scales.

There may be a silver lining? What on earth might one take
from all this?

Phil Scott