Re: Campaign launched against dietary supplements

From: Robert (RobertJ_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 02/03/05 

Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:40:07 -0800

"Mark Probert" <Mark Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert" <RobertJ@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3bidnfUSL5kHo5zfRVn-1Q@got.net...
> >
> > "Mark Probert" <Mark Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> > news:IC5Md.282$pl5.278@fe08.lga...
> > > > companies which is in the millions to get a drug approved. It makes
it
> > no
> > > > more bogus for the drug companies to do it their own research that
> they
> > > will
> > > > make millions and billions on. People doing research on their own
> don't
> > > have
> > > > the resources that the billion dollar companies do.
> > >
> > > I am referring to the patient paying directly for unproven treatment.
> Not
> > > what you are bleating about.
> >
> > All clinical trials are unproven and as to who pays for those trials,
we
> > all do.
>
> So? Someone has to pay for them and the patient is not charged directly.
In
> fact, many of the clinical trials reimburse patients for their time and
out
> of pocket expenses.

Paid out of the direct pocket of those patients paying high drug costs with
new drugs. Don't tell me that insurance pays, yes but it is out of premiums
that keep on raising because of the high cost of meds.
Sure, nobody pays for those reimbursed patients by the drug companies. What
kind of drugs are you on?

>
> The charlatans charge directly. Do they warn the patient that their
> "treatment" is experimental? I do know that the patient in a clinical
trial
> is. Some can do it better, though.
>
> And that is the BIG difference.

Drug companies can afford to do it indirectly and transfer the cost.
Individuals can not do this.

>
>
>

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