Re: Coffee Consumption and the Link to Cardiovascular Disease

From: montygram (nazztrader_at_lycos.com)
Date: 02/16/05 

Date: 15 Feb 2005 19:28:10 -0800

Why don't you read some Hans Selye to get you started. He understood
andrenal stress, but not the underlying biochemistry, which has changed
because now AA is incorporated instead of the Mead acid. In the old US
medical literature, it is noted that native Americans were just about
cancer-free, for example. Stomach cancer was a big killer in the USA,
but after PUFAs started being consumed in large amounts, colon, breast,
prostate, etc. went through the roof, yet it's still very low in third
world countries that use coconut or palm kernel oils. Do your own
World Health Organization search and see. And if "AIDS" is related to
various stressors: not enough sleep, not enough stomach acid, too much
drug use (legal and/or illegal), etc., the same effect would be
produced, that is, AA would be released and particular metabolites
generated. In many if not most US "AIDS" cases, PGE2 is expressed to a
massive degree, and nobody is going to survive that over time. There
is a large literature on what is now called "immune restoration
disease," which is a nice way of saying that people taking the
"cocktail" died of liver failure or of cancers unrelated to "AIDS"
(according to the mainstream morons), so I don't know where you're
looking but those who stress their bodies on the cellular level will
die within a short period of time (relative to normal life expectancy),
if the stressors are not removed. However, you can't eat coconuts
while doing crystal meth and poppers - the coconuts will give you more
resistance, but over time, you're going to destroy your body. HIV,
though, is totally harmless - I'd rather get it than the common cold,
but the problem is that if you are exposed to the blood of someone
whose body is teeming with all kinds of AA metabolites and highly
active bacteria/viruses, etc., and you're sharing a stressful
lifestyle, you aren't going to last long, HIV or not. Plenty of
"idiopathic" non-HIV AIDS out there, you just don't hear about it in
the mainstream media. Dr. Mary Enig, a leading fatty acid researcher,
is doing studies with coconuts and HIV/AIDS people, but she thinks AA
is "essential," whereas I, biochemist Ray Peat, and a few others have
been unable to locate any good evidence for this claim, and in fact,
there is a huge literature indicating that AA is the root cause of all
kinds of "chronic diseases," in the presence of the usual stressors of
life in the good ole US of A - not enough sleep, too much free radical
damage from various sources, not enough dietary antioxidants, drug use,
alcoholism, etc. The evidence is there. If you don't want to look at
it, that's your business.

Robert wrote:
> "montygram" <nazztrader@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1107579595.727095.244010@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > I am using the term stress in the medical sense, not the
psychological,
>
> So medical stress is a newly acquired condition that never existed in
the
> past. The great death was only a psychological stressor and not a
medical
> one.
>
> > though the importance of that has been demonstrated in recent
studies.
> > Do you even know who Hans Selye is? Do you understand how stress
> > induces PLA2 and AA metabolization, and from there the damage
things
> > like isoprostanes do? If no, you need to learn more about
biochemistry
>
> Let me quess, I can eliminate all that stress by eating coconuts.
> without stress you would be dead.
> Don't you know anything about biochemistry and physiology and the
organ of
> stress being the adnenal gland. Without the stress hormones you would
be
> dead as in Addisons disease. Didn't anyone teach you that.
>
> > and physiology. If the true HIV believers admit that it is all
> > epidemiological, which means statistical correlation. Of course,
there
> > would be such a correlation. You could correlate all kinds of
things
> > that make no sense whatsoever, as any epidemiologist would readily
> > admit. HIV just happened to be found and was not known, and so got
> > blamed. It was a plausible notion at the time, one that should
have
> > been investigated properly, but even you probably know that that
was
> > not done in this case.
> >
> All I know is that people with AIDs were dying on the medical wards
left and
> right with classic AIDs related illnesses and now with the new meds
you
> hardly ever see those cases to the point where they become teaching
cases.
> People are alive today, and not by eating coconuts, but by the meds.