Re: The auto immune response and the future of medicine.. imo


"Robert" <Robertitsme@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Phil Scott" <philscott888@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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> > .
> >
> > ..
> >
> > In my view..
> >
> > the next major advance in medicine will be in the
catalyzing
> > of various aberrant tissue (cancers etc)...and plaques so
they
> > are recognized as dangerous and are attacked by the body's
> > highly developed immune system... the macrophages in the
blood
> > stream and the microglia cells in the brain and nervous
> > system.
>
> What do you mean by next? That has been the whole immunology
boom the past
> several decades.


Yes at least that long. There are many aspects however.
What I bring up has not been addressed, nor in the fashion
that I am suggesting. I think it will be in the future
however. there is some research though along those lines.
The Stanford research on amyloid broad spectrum is impressive,
they have not parsed it to reactions on just the various types
in in specific organs.. that has not even been mentioned.


>
> >
> >
> > Currently there are no such specific tactics... for
instance
> > to chemically tag the exact type of amyloid plaque that
> > pervades the islet cells in the pancreas impeding insulin
> > production producing one of the variants of type 2
diabetes.


> Bull***. They tried that with Alzeimbers patient plaques
and the research
> was halted because of an autoimmune meningitis induced the
vaccine targeted
> plaques.


Your abuse is not appreciated...your insight on the Stanford U
study you just referenced is shallow... I guess that
characteristic goes with abuse. You do not speak well for
yourself in that regard.

Those same researchers at Stanford are now making superb
progress on a slower immune reaction catalyst announced as you
probably know a few weeks ago.




> >
> > I think this approach is just now starting to get some
> > attention on the periphery by a few researchers but is not
yet
> > even remotely on the mainstream... why?
> It is mainstream and I don't know where you have been. It is
and has been in
> cancer treatment for a long time including skin cancer.
>
> First it seems we
> > don't understand these mechanisms well.
> You certainly do and I am sure you will tell us how to do
it.
> Secondly curing
> > diabetes, arthritis, arterial sclerosis and cancer by
these
> > means will be a simple process, the loss of business to
drug
> > companies will be in the actual *trillions of dollars...
it
> > is not difficult to see why these, and the moneyed people
and
> > organizations involved would want to protect that
income...and
> > the rationale for it... 'people die after a time anyway'.
> I see then that medicine does not want to cure people. They
have not
> transplanted pancreases or livers or hearts and lungs. No
such thing as
> surgery.
>
> > None the less I think we will have effective research in
these
> > areas that will produce by not very complex trial and
error
> > tactics the trace chemical cocktails that will be required
to
> > tag the unwanted cells, and plaques for destruction.
> Chemical cocktails? Who will make these chemical cocktails
if the pharm
> companies are so against it? As if all disease will go away
because diabetes
> is cured.
>
> > I think the research will proceed this way:
> >
> > Immune system attack is accompanied by inflammation. The
body
> > can be scanned by various thermal imaging tactics and
probes
> > can be inserted to measure blood flow and temperature
> > increases in any organ...indicating an immune system
response
> > in the area.
> Not even close with that thermal imaging or blood flow man.
You are talking
> about antibodies and or cellular immunity and not your
refrigerator.
> >
> > Then very localized tests can be done, similar to skin
spot
> > tests for allergens. Before and after needle biopsy can
be
> > done to determine what the immune system had attacked or
> > removed and collateral damage if any.
> All they need is MRI or CT to see if the tumor has shrunk or
not Enstein.
> >
> > For instance I know what chemical catalysts caused my
> > microglia to attack all 8 or 10 or more variants of
amyloid
> > plaque in my body ( and now after 8 years) significant
> > rejuvenation is taking place. the diseases of aging are
fast
> > ablating, my skin and organs are reverting to levels not
seen
> > since my 20's.
> WTF man. I feel for your microglia. I think they missed one
big one in your
> head.
> >
> > (a side note here: If I had acted to limit the immune
> > response, which was severe at times I would have been
acting
> > to stop the microglia and other immune cells from doing
their
> > job... treating symptoms has that liability.)
> >
> > So far in my case there has been no lasting collateral
damage
> > .. the body's immune system it seems is very carefully
> > tailored in its normal mode to do no harm.. but to just
> > obliterate aberrant cells etc.. bypassing normal tissue.
Its
> > a perfect system affected only it seems by overloading it
with
> > toxins and a few other things.. for instance treating
> > inflammation in situations where it should be allowed to
run
> > its course as the immune system does its work.
> Stick to changing the oil on your car and leave the medical
stuff to experts
> ok.
> >
> > What this means to many people is that by simply living a
few
> > years longer, by whatever means or just luck one will be
here
> > when these treatments are common.. and will then live a
lot
> > longer...and for those that wish to cease being idiots or
> > become wise to a degree this is good news..because that
takes
> > time.
> >
> >
> > Things such as over work, putting up with crap...
compromise
> > with non joyous relations... and retirement so that ones
brain
> > ablates away from disuse......all tend to destroy immune
> > function and lessen ones chance of being here as these
immune
> > system mobilizing approaches are understood and become
> > available.
> >
> >
> >
> > There might be many other ways, besides chemical means of
> > encouraging an immune response. and this might be what is
> > behind many of the not so rare spontaneous healings well
known
> > to medicine as well.
> >
> > Getting into 'fight mode' for instance. There are many
> > things to notice in these regards. Fight mode without
hate
> > seems from what I've read and understand and experienced
> > produces very significant improvement in survival rates
and
> > increased immune response.
> >
> > Very akin to fight mode however is 'hate mode' ... hate
seems
> > to **impede immune response and produce sickness.
> >
> > Its easy to confuse the two since a person often thinks
about
> > fighting what he hates.
> >
> >
> > How does one control that? Its not controllable from what
I
> > can tell. A person is who he is... that can be changed
> > however.
> >
> > By being unerringly honest, with courage, and no
> > compromise..and seeking to produce the best...and to be of
> > real value to the rest of life and oneself.. integrity,
then
> > decency ensue. With decency comes the will to fight...but
not
> > hate.
> >
> > It is this that will produce the best in you, those around
> > you...and for mankind and the rest of life in
general...and
> > the immediate benefits to you will be quite satisfying,,
and
> > noticeable to yourself and others that matter.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Phil Scott
> >
> >


> Your microglia need a lot of work to do there Phil. That
euphoria and dogs
> sleeping with cats stuff is caused by one big plaque.


How special of you to comment with such a trash job... that
characteristic of yours will be the foundation of your own
extended debilitation unfortunately.

Sorry but I must place your sorry ass in my killfile now.

Phil Scott
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