Re: Carb to Fat ratio in American food.



bob wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:51:27 -0400, "Bob (this one)" <Bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

bob wrote:

On 15 May 2005 13:16:32 -0700, "Tipster" <starchdiet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Having been brought up in a high carb (oriental diet, rice mostly) I
noticed that many of fast food (exclude beverages) that I can buy here
are low in carb but high in fat.

It seems really hard getting products that are high in carb. If I
wanted to get enough carbs I end up consuming more fat. So I end up
with an adaquate of carb but extrodinary high intake of fat (esp dairy
and animal fat). Excess calory consumption with an adaquate supply of
carb but too much fat and probably protein


Anyone feel the same way?

If you want finished fast foods, they're going to be carby and fatty. It's the nature of the industry because that's what the consuming public will buy. What's stopping you from buying fruit and bread and whatever you might want in that bread to suit your tastes? Or cooking some rice and bringing it with you? Stop in at Popeye's and get some of their "Dirty" rice. Hit one of the (generally inexpensive) fake Chinese buffet restaurants and pick and choose. You have options, just not at the average drive through window.



This is why the whole high carb diet is causing obesity is a bunch of
crap. Nobody would deny that fast food has contributed to the
obesity epidemic and fast food is fat fat fat. Meals consist of red
meat & cheese are the main entrees and maybe 1 roll on the side.

Um, Taco Bell. Er, Long John Silver's. Uh, KFC. Uhm Pizza Hut.

Right. Red meat everywhere...

Red meat in tacos and burritos, fish, chicken, cheese.  So whats your
point?  That they are high carb?

No, sludgewit. That they aren't red meat. And that if you want to avoid it, it's very simple. And if you want higher carb offerings, go where they sell them or make your own. Like all the fast food places that sell salads that you put dressing on, not them. Want no fat at all? Simple. Want high carb? Ask for a biscuit or roll or two. Want some protein, little fat and lots of carbs? Salad with grilled chicken breast and croutons. There's always a way if you want to do it instead of just talking about it.


HTH.

What's causing obesity is ingesting too many calories compared to daily usage.

Thats what I already said.

No. It isn't. You claimed it was a kind of food in a kind of foodservice type. Because you have a bogus understanding of your own responsibility in the situation. Everything about what you eat is up to you. If you choose it, you take the full responsibility for its effects. You can eat fast food and not get fat, but it presupposes discipline on your part.


I would deny that fast food has any more responsibility for obesity than the middle aisles of every supermarket. Where the cookies and cereals and canned foods are stacked in gleaming invitation. And when all is said and done, it's the customers who are the final arbiter, not the sellers.

Don't want to be fat? No prob. Cut back on the calories. Write that down. It'll be on the final.

Pastorio
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