Re: Would-be mums told to avoid soya



outrider@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7559
> >
> > Would-be mums told to avoid soya
> > 13:05 22 June 2005
> > NewScientist.com news service
> > Michael Le Page, Copenhagen
> > Women trying to conceive should consider not consuming soya for the few
> > days around ovulation, according to a UK researcher. Her study shows a
> > compound found in soya causes human sperm in a dish to "pop their
> > caps" prematurely, rendering them useless. But it remains unclear
> > whether eating soya has any actual effect on fertility.
> >
> > Lynn Fraser of King's College London studied the effect of very low
> > levels of genistein - a compound found in leguminous plants such as
> > soya - on human sperm in a liquid medium similar to that found in the
> > female reproductive tract. "It was very striking," she says.
> > "Within an hour a third of the sperm had gone all the way."
> >
> > This means that the genistein had prematurely triggered the sperm to
> > undergo what is known as the acrosome reaction. The acrosome is the cap
> > on the tip of sperm that contains the enzymes needed to penetrate the
> > thick outer layer of the female's egg once the sperm has reached it.
> > If it is lost early, sperm have no chance of fertilising an egg.
> >
> > Fraser says other studies have shown that genistein gets into the blood
> > of people who eat soya products. She believes that in women, it could
> > end up in the reproductive tract and damage their chances of
> > conceiving. "From what we have seen, women should restrict their diet
> > for a short time over the period of ovulation."
> >
> > Effects on males
> > But other experts are not convinced such advice is necessary. James
> > Kumi-Diaka of Florida Atlantic University, US, says his team has also
> > found that genistein has a dramatic effect on sperm - so much so that
> > he has toyed with the idea of incorporating genistein into condoms as a
> > contraceptive.
> >
> > His team has also found that when genistein is injected into male rats
> > three times a week, it reduces the size of the litters they father,
> > from about 11 pups at most to five. Even low doses had an effect, he
> > says. That would seem to hint that men, too, should worry about eating
> > soya when trying to father children.
> >
> > But Kumi-Diaka stops short of such advice. "It depends on so many
> > things," he says. "How the food is prepared, how often you eat it,
> > whether it is eaten alone." If genistein really does affect
> > fertility, Kumi-Diaka points out, you would expect to see fertility
> > problems in Asian countries, where many people consume soya products
> > daily - but there is no such evidence.
> >
> > Combining chemicals
> > Fraser first reported that genistein triggers the acrosome reaction in
> > mouse sperm in 2003. In other studies on mouse sperm, she has found two
> > other chemicals can also trigger the acrosome reaction. One, called
> > 8-prenylnaringenin, is found in hops and is thus is present in some
> > beers, but Fraser does not know what levels are typical. The second
> > chemical, nonylphenol, is found in products such paints, pesticides and
> > cleaning products. "There could be a whole range of chemicals with
> > this effect," she says.
> >
> > What is more, Fraser found that combinations of these chemicals, which
> > she calls xenobiotics, had a much greater effect than any one alone.
> > "Given the likelihood that we are exposed to several xenobiotics at
> > any one time, we need to investigate their possible effects on
> > fertility as quickly as possible."
> >
> > Her latest studies were presented at a meeting of the European Society
> > for Human Reproduction and Embryology in Copenhagen, Denmark, on
> > Wednesday.
> >
> > --------
> >
> > Soy is not real food. And it ain't a healthy food, by anyone's
> > standards.
> >
> > TC
>
>
>
> New method of birth control?
>
> Well perhaps not:
>
> "If genistein really does affect fertility, Kumi-Diaka points out, you
> would expect to see fertility problems in Asian countries, where many
> people consume soya products daily - but there is no such evidence."
>
> Zee

In Asian countries they eat only fermented soy. Fermentation
neutralizes phyto-toxins. Westerners eat or drink (as in "soymilk") the
soy bean without properly fermenting it to neutralize the phyto-toxins.

And in Asian countries much of the soy eaten is properly fermented and
used only as a condiment (as in soya sauce, Miso and Natto). They only
use soy as a protein replacement irregularly or when there is a
shortage of real protein foods.

Soy is not real food, especially when it is just ground up and
consumed. You must neutralize the phyto-toxins.

TC

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