Re: Would-be mums told to avoid soya

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:27:57 -0400, Roger Rabbit wrote in
<news:1m5pb15fdc8r9hfaern55vm6nu1f5uuv65@xxxxxxx> on sci.med.nutrition :

> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:07:17 +0200, Enrico C
> <use_replyto_address@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>Even so, soy noodles is a 250-year-old food, lots of people have eaten it
>>for years, haven't they?

> I dunno. Have they?

One sees soy noodles in menus, so one wonders.

>>Also, tofu is a traditional Chinese food, and I gather it's made from
>>soymilk...
>
> I think the Japanese eat more soy than the Chinese.

>>http://www.silkissoy.com/index.php?id=17&cid=1
>>"Tofu is the curd formed by adding certain salts to soymilk, and is not
>>fermented."
>>
>
> Well there ya go! However, the soy people (sounds like a grade C
> horror flick)

Alien soybean-pods from outer space ;)


> tell us that soy milk is a healthy cow milk alternative.

>>Here is what the soy people say...
>>
>>http://www.silkissoy.com/index.php?id=17&cid=1
>>Soyfoods containing isoflavones provide a variety of health benefits.
>>Lowered risks of certain cancers, cardiovascular disease, and osteoporosis
>>have all been attributed to soyfoods containing isoflavones. Isoflavones
>>are described as phytoestrogens (plant estrogens) because their structure
>>and metabolism resembles that of human estrogens. These plant estrogens are
>>much weaker than naturally circulating human estrogens and they have
>>approximately 1/1000th of the biological activity of synthetic estrogens.
>>Some groups have raised concerns about fertility of soyfood consumers.
>>People consuming diets rich in phytoestrogens from soy have not
>>shown signs of infertility (J Nutr, 2002).
>>
>
> Well if the *soy* people say its good for us then it *must* be good
> for us. :o.

Of course not. :)
Though, they quote The Journal of Nutrition to support their claims.
I guess they must refer to this article.

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/132/3/570S?maxtoshow=&HITS=150&hits=150&RESULTFORMAT=&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=soy+fertility&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1119660675411_6050&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&fdate=1/1/2002&tdate=1/31/2003&journalcode=nutrition
[...]
"These recent studies in men consuming soyfoods or supplements containing
40–70 mg/d of soy isoflavones showed few effects on plasma hormones or
semen quality. These data do not support concerns about effects on
reproductive hormones and semen quality."
.

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