Re: They just finished doubling (corrupt) NIH funding over the last five years


Robert wrote:
> "TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1123617093.235079.250730@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > > It is done with ease. Look up Canadian health screw-ups and how people
> are
> > > dying.
> >
> > Oh my god, the Canadian health system in NOT infallible? What a
> > bombshell!
>
> What is infallible is that you will never right anything bad about Canadian
> health that impacts you. A troll to perfection.
> >
> > >
> > > If I am
> > > > a troll, ignore me. Maybe I'll go away. Then again maybe I won't.
> > >
> > > This is just a wild guess but I really don't think, you being a Canadian
> > > troll, would stop posting that crap if I asked you to.
> > > I will try to ignore your 500,000 posts about american health just I
> will
> > > try to ignore Tom's posts about iron.
> > > They are equal in number and flood this NG which is nutrition.
> >
> > Irrelevant, the NIH's are still corrupt.
>
> So what? Who gives a ***? Are you going to make people care?
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And
> > > > maybe your silly anti-canadian BS is what is keeping my educational
> > > > posts in front of your fellow countrymen day after day in this ng.
> > > >
> > > My anti-canadian stuff? Compare the number of posts.
> > > You state that Health Canada and the FDA are equal and that proves your
> > > point. Let's see here.
> > >
> > > 600,000 posts against FDA and NIH
> >
> > 600,001 and counting....
> >
> > >
> > > 0 posts about Health Canada
> >
> > Health Canad is perfection..... compared to the American system that
> > is.
> >
>
> A system that let's people die in order to save money by waiting as the last
> Canadian Supreme Court decision stated.

Better than the US where 40% are at risk of dying without health
benefits.

> A system that has cut back to the bare bone any medical research in which
> Canadian researchers are leaving Canada for the US.

They stay to do useful but not ridiculously lucrative real research and
they go to do lucrative but useless industry marketing research. You
can have them.

> A system that has closed many specialists medical training in which the
> doctors are forced to go to the US for that training.

Specialists that are not needed. You can have them. We, and you, need
family doctors, GP's. Specialists are a dime a dozen.

> A system that enslaves the healthcare employees that are forced to accept
> government contracts at low pay.

That is hilarious. As opposed to a system that allows doctors to hold
their patients hostage and bankrupt them one by one. Doctors and nurses
in Canada make a pretty good living here. they are just not multi
millionaires who are satisfied with denying health care to forty % of
their country men.

> A system that outlaws private healthcare because if it did exist the
> competition would kill an already dying system. Only North Korea and Cuba
> have similar systems, not even GB.

No, it outlaws it because the privateers will do what is easiest and
most lucrative which will undermine the economics of the system as a
whole. And remember, all Canadians have access to health care.

> A system that healthcare workers are fleeing in the thousands.

Thousands? Not really. Hundreds maybe, and that was a few years ago.
That has pretty much gone down to a trickle of the greedier ones. You
can have 'em.

> A system that forces Canadians to seek healthcare in the US.

Why would they seek healthcare in the US. It is available free of
charge here.

> A system that has abandoned it's hospital facilities to third world status.

That's funny. Last time I looked they were as competent, as well
equiped, and as well staffed as any medical offices in the world. Where
do you get your information from? What a bunch of right wing
propaganda.

> A system that has cut back on diagnostic instruments such as CT's and MRI's
> making waiting times in months for cancer patients.

Not in my province. They've just recently acquired several of those
instruments.

> A system run by idiotic politicians and corrupt health ministers.

As opposed to greedy corporations and their minions in the Senate and
Congress. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

> A system with no accountability and answers to no one.

That is just plain silly. Not to mention wrong.

> The list is endless.

In your fertile imagination, it probably is. When you come back to
reality, feel free to visit us and see what is happening in the real
world in Canada, where the average life span is longer than in the US
and where everyone gets access to a pretty darned good health care
system. It's really neat to leave the hospital with a limb in a cast or
a newborn child without having had to mortgage the house.

>
>
> You are lucky the US is there to help correct the Canadian crap imposed by
> idiotic politicians up there and bail you guys out.

Yep, I just can't wait for the NIH people to advise our people on the
right way to milk the taxpayers money into their own pockets.

>
> > >
> > > That makes you a Canadian.
> >
> > And frikkin' proud, eh!
>
> And you are so proud of the system you imposed and outlawed other systems
> that you can not or do not care that it is killing people. Your pride won't
> allow you to see that.

Who exactly was killed? Give me a name and a city. What an imagination!

> Your pride won't allow you to see and change one single thing.

We are fully aware of the shortfalls in our health care system. They
are routinely discussed in the press and in the House. None of it is
hidden.

> If you ever come down with something chronic you better hope the US
> researchers, some from Canada here, can come up with something to treat you.
> You and other Canadians pretty much destroyed anything useful with your
> socialistic system up there that it is so dependent as other third world
> countries.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here is an interesting exercise... let's see if you can actually add
> > > > something other than anti-Canada vitriol to the discussion. My bet is
> > > > that you can't.
> > >
> > > I am saying that you should open your big mouth on something that
> impacts
> > > your life as a Canadian. Opening your big mouth about the US does not.
> > > You want to call that anti-canadian? LOL
> >
> > We are not discussing Canada. We are discussing how corrupt the NIH is.
> > Any comments on that? Didn't think so. And you call me a troll.
>
> Nobody gives a ***. Look at all your posts here. Who replies?
>
> >
> > >
> > > You have nothing that can fix the deep shame and
> > > > loathing that you feel about the abject corruption in the NIH,
> > > > therefore you strike out like a frustrated child in a sandbox.
> > >
> > > We have the Candians leaving Canada might be able to fix it.
> >
> > They are partaking in the massive money making corruption that goes on
> > in the US. More power to them. The corruption we lose is the corruption
> > you gain.
>
> Your pride will never allow it. Your system is going down because of that
> attitude.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You've lost the argument before you've said a single word. So you
> > > > strike out at an entire country. Now, ain't that the American way.
> > > >
> > > > TC
> > > >
> > >
> > > The Canadian way is to write about Americans.
> > > Get a life.
> >
> > Actually I never wrote about "Americans". I wrote about a world leader
> > in scientific research which happens to be the NIH.
> >
> > TC
> >
>
> Last I heard the FDA and NIH are American. You consider them world leaders
> because other countries like Canada have screwed up their entire health
> system.
> Don't bite the hand that feeds you and FDA, NIH is feeding Canadians. They
> are so cheap ass as to even come close to having their own.
> Take pride in all the money that Canada is saving. It shows.

They are leaders because they do more reseach than any other
"scientific" establishment in the world. Too bad it is all a waste of
money and scientists time. It's fundamental corruption renders it no
more than a sad trough for public money to be sucked out of.

TC

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