Re: Decent cholesterol, high triglycerides, what am I doing wrong?

Mirek Fidler wrote:
: Juhana Harju wrote:

:: I agree. Possibly Mirek gets this ideal cholesterol value 200 from
:: the Seven Countries Study where the Cretan people had an average
:: total cholesterol of 200. I think that one can not generalize those
:: results as the Cretan diet is so unique.
:
: Well, it might be one of sources. Anyway, it is well known that total
: mortality / cholesterol relation is U shaped - below 180 mortality
: starts to grow once again.
:
: Of course, as usually, many ad-hoc hypothesis try to explain this
: phenomenon, but in fact, you can apply similar ad-hoc hypothesis to
: LDL - CVD relation. So in the end, before exact biochemical mechanisms
: involved are explained (and they are NOT explained at the moment, in
: fact even simple saturated fat -> TC level relation is completely
: unexplained), all you can do is to rely on hard empirical data....
:
: One thing that people tend to forget when dealing with TC levels is
: that CVD is not the only cause of death.... Even if LDL levels might
: represent risk factor for CVD mortality, its relation to other
: diseases is much more complex (despite many unwarranted claims
: proposed by "reports"). In fact, I think that hard data just suggest
: that if your TC is over 200, you will more likely die because of CVD,
: if it is below, then you will die because of something else, but have
: a little to do with "WHEN" :) (BTW, personaly I would prefer CVD over
: cancer as the cause of my future death :)

I understand your point and I am familiar with this U-shape phenomenon you
are talking about. I think that what you say applies to Western cultures and
diets but not necessarily to the diets of other cultures, e.g. Thai people
and Okinawans have a low total cholesterol and still very low cancer
incidence. Perhaps we should learn something about the Asian food cultures
and I don't mean coconut fat only. :-p

--
Juhana


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Some studies about diets in lowering cholesterol
    ... Juhana Harju wrote: ... > Impressive results in the reduction of cholesterol by diet alone. ... It is one thing to make the permanent change of eating less to ... It is quite another to make the permanent changes of *both* eating less ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)
  • Re: LDL too low...?
    ... Juhana Harju wrote: ... ::: LDL is definitely in association with total cholesterol. ... ages and in women under the age of 50. ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)
  • Re: One more safe alternative to statins
    ... Juhana Harju wrote: ... > zee wrote: ... >:: lower cholesterol by five per cent or 40. ... > cholesterol levels; so their mechanisms of action are different. ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)
  • Re: One more safe alternative to statins
    ... Juhana Harju wrote: ... > zee wrote: ... >:: lower cholesterol by five per cent or 40. ... > cholesterol levels; so their mechanisms of action are different. ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)