Re: Dietary treatments for obesity are ineffective


Doug Freese wrote:
"TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Low carb does work better than low fat. Low carb is healthier than low
fatt.

No eating balanced is the best and yes without the cheap sugar goods.
Lots of yummy grains, vegetables, fruits with a little meat. By God that
looks just like the Harvard School of Public Health. Are they on the
take also?

Eating balanced? No, eating real foods. The "eating balanced" crap is
another ubiquitous term without any real meaning.


Refined carbs cause chronic disease.

Too many calories of any damn food causes obesity or at least a severe
imbalance which in turn starts mud slide to chronic problems.

Calories mean squat. If calories were the only thing, then anyone would
be able to easily lose all the weight they wanted by applying even a
modicum of effort. There is no shortage of low calorie foods to
substitute for higher calorie foods. It ain't hard to find low calorie
foods. And it is very easy to portion control, even over a longer term.
Restricting fat is easy too. There is plenty of low fat foods. But the
fly in the ointment is simply that none of that works. The calorie math
fails to predict the results in almost every case.

Whether the problem is fundamental in the nature of the calorie theory
or in the unwieldliness of the food/calorie quantification
estimations/average or in the day to day estimations of the caloric
contents of a given plate of food, IT DOES NOT WORK. For all practical
purposes, counting calories do not work. Period.

When a given theoretical methodology fails to achieve the desired
results is more than 95% of cases in the real world, it is time to give
up on it and go on to consider more useful and more successful
methodologies.

Give it up already.



Real food, real meat, real produce is good heathy food.

I agree but we must be careful with to limit meat. I don't really trust
organic meat unless I see what they eat is not fertilized crap.

I could say the same with any foodstuff. Like bean sprouts and e. coli.
Any food crop and fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides.

But real food, without excessive or any processing or refining, will
always, always, always be the healthier alternative.


And no pill will fix that. No pill will make us healthy.

Wait, two places we agree but there are a bazillion people out in TV
land that are gorging themselves until the pill shows up.

Pork fat rules.

Oh yes, the other white meat. Like any meat, eaten in moderation.

-DF

The essential fatty acids come from animals. The essential proteins
come from animals. The best foods in the world are bone broths and
organ meats with plenty of animal fats.

Refined grain products and manufactured and refined vegetable fats are
fake foods and foreign to what we evolved to eat. That is the simple
genetics of the situation. We evolved eating certain foods, when we go
too far off that simple path of eating what we evolved to eat, we run
into serious chronic disease. Diabetes has tripled in 30 year. Obesity
has exploded in thirty year. CVDs have exploded in 30 years. HFCS
consumption has exploded in 30 years. Margarine and trans fat
consumption has increase greatly in the last 30 years. Eating from
boxes has become the norm in the last thirty years.

We need to get back to eating real foods prepared in our own homes as
we used to prepare them.

Instant foods are not real foods.

TC

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