Re: crave carbs

Jim Chinnis wrote:
NoOption5L@xxxxxxx wrote in part:

They're missing out on the goodness/and taste of many
fruits, vegetables and whole grains. That's a tragedy. Samplying
nature's vast bounty of fruit, vegetables and whole grains is one of
the best things in life...

I'm one of those people you are disparaging. A lot of people have problems
with carb cravings and overeating because they eat too many carbs for
someone who is even a tad overweight. I don't suggest that they eat cheese
and meat and stop eating all carbs. I think they should stop eating things
made from flour--whole grain or not--potatoes, rice, and sweets. Make the
carbs count by eating healthy produce, but skip the starchy stuff.

First let me reiterate a point. People were not/are not getting fat
eating whole grains. Most of these overweight people don't even know
what a whole grain is. They think any bread, baked goods, crackers or
whatever, that's grainy, and not soft and creamy smooth in the mouth,
is "weird".

Whole grains are very nutritious, they fill you up, and keep you filled
up.

After a while, when the weight has dropped, try adding in some whole grain
stuff and see if the weight stays right and the cravings stay away.

Here's my "diet plan". Eat only healthy foods (see the whfoods.com)
and get more exercise. The fat will come off and will be replaced with
muscle. I say screw worrying about weight/numbers. It's about eating
wholesome foods and keeping/building muscle.

There are really a lot of data of various kinds now that indicate that lots
of high-glycemic carbs aren't so good for at least a lot of us. There's also
a lot of weakness in the arguments that high fat diets are bad for
us--they're probably wrong.

Worrying about food glycemic-numbers is a waste. Too many variables.
For instance, carrots are high glycemic, right? But what if those
carrots are sitting on top of a salad with olive oil? The oil is
surely going to slow down the digestive process, right.

The thing is most of the time people consume a number of foods at a
meal. So if you're eating some nuts, eggs, beans, or fish for lunch
how is the high-glycemic (and very nutritious) watermelon for desert
going to hurt?

We evolved our metabolisms without eating any "whole grain" at all.

Most every ancient society has had a grain/grains at the center of
their diet.

The term is used in the US just to mean ground up, broken seeds from grains, where
the components are present in the flour in the rough proportions they are in
the whole kernels. During our evolution, we ate some whole kernel grains
(with very low glycemic indices) but no "whole grain" breads and such at all
(with their high glycemic indices).

If you ever get a chance to live in the Middle East, you'll see that in
the "cradle of civilization" bread is at the center of the diet.

We also didn't profess revulsion at bacon for being fatty. We ate pretty
much the whole animal.

Yes, lean animals (and meat free of sodium nitrate). Not the lab
expirements they call animals these days.

Note: In the Middle East, lamb, chicken and fish is often served, and
is nearly always in between or on top of bread.

What we didn't have were baked goods, trans fats, and any foods that weren't
"whole."

I agree. Baked goods should be an ocassional treat. Trans
fats/hydrogenated oils should have been off the market way back in the
70s. Whole foods and whole grains are good.

(We also didn't have feed-lot meats [and even fish] raised on
grain, with their altered lipid profiles, but that's a different issue.)

Agreed. See above.

You have some good points, Jim. I only suggest you don't shy away from
any fruits, veggies, or whole grains.

Patrick

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