Re: A calorie is NOT a calorie!

"TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in part:


Jim Chinnis wrote:
"TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in part:


Jim Chinnis wrote:
"TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in part:

FACT: 95%+ of low calorie diets fail.

FACT: 95%+ of diets fail.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@xxxxxxxxxxxx

That figure came from studies in the 1970's before the low carb "craze"
of the late 1990's and early 2000's. Do you have any scientific data
that says that this failure rate also applies to low-carb diets? Or are
you just guessing? Or wishing? Or hoping?

TC

I knew people on Atkins in the late 60s. They've remained fat all their
lives, with brief slimdowns here and there. Ever since the 1960s, low-carb
has been one of the diets on the short list of popularity.

I guess that is all the scientific proof needed. You knew people on
atkins in the 60s.

It proves it isn't new.

I'm unwilling to look up cites right now, so just say I'm making up the fact
that (at least!) 95% of weight-loss diets fail over the long haul, as well
as that most people are fat.

Unwilling? Lazy ***. Then shut the f**k up. Mind your own beeswax.
Unwilling!

No wonder you've resided in my bozo filter for so long. Unlike you, some of
us have jobs, families, friends, and lives.

I agree that low carbing, done right, will result in weight loss over the
months or maybe longer with the right unflagging motivation. I follow a
reduced carb diet myself and have done so for years. And my weight is good.
But low-carbing is only part of the reason for my success, and it's no
panacea.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Low carbing is the only "panacea" that actually works. Except for
dangerous abject nutrient deprivation like that advocated by the vegan
cults. If you can remove all the processed and refined manufactured
crap from your diet, you will maintain a reasonable state of weight and
health. Real food. Real fresh whole food. Real meats from healthy
animals. Eat real food and you will be healthy and thin(ner).

Back to your objection to my 95%+ of diets fail remark. Even in the boom
years of Low-Carb, it's been shown that low-carbers aren't often found in
the National Weight Control Registry, which is the national database on
long-term successful dieters:

Obesity (Silver Spring). 2006 Apr;14(4):710-6. Related Articles, Links


Are the eating and exercise habits of successful weight losers changing?

Phelan S, Wyatt HR, Hill JO, Wing RR.

Weight Control and Diabetes Research Center; 196 Richmond Street,
Providence, RI 02906. sphelan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this study was to examine whether the diet and
exercise behaviors of successful weight losers entering the National Weight
Control Registry (NWCR) have changed between 1995 and 2003. Research Method
and Procedures: Participants (N = 2708) were members of the NWCR who
enrolled in intermittent years since 1995. Participants had lost an average
of 33.1 kg and maintained a 13.6-kg loss for 5.8 years before enrollment.
Evaluations of diet and physical activity were conducted at entry into the
NWCR and prospectively over 1 year. RESULTS: From 1995 to 2003, the daily
percentage of calories from fat increased from 23.8% to 29.4%, saturated fat
intake increased from 12.3 to 154.0 g/d, and calories from carbohydrate
decreased from 56.0% to 49.3% (p < 0.0001). The proportion consuming <90
grams of carbohydrate (considered a low-carbohydrate diet) increased from
5.9% to 17.1% (p = 0.0001). Physical activity was elevated in 1995 (mean =
3316 kcal/wk) but comparable in all other years (mean = 2620 kcal/wk).
Stepwise regression collapsing across cohorts indicated that weight regain
over 1 year was related to higher levels of caloric intake, fast food
consumption, and fat intake and lower levels of physical activity (p <
0.03). DISCUSSION: The macronutrient composition of the diet of NWCR members
has shifted over the past decade. Still, only a minority consumes a
low-carbohydrate diet. Despite changes in the diet over time, the variables
associated with long-term maintenance of weight loss were the same:
continued consumption of a low-calorie diet with moderate fat intake,
limited fast food, and high levels of physical activity.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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