free radicals (sat fat vs. unsat fat vs. whole food)

I'm quoting montygram:

Go to usda.gov, I think (I'm not on the computer that has it
bookmarked), for the searchable database. They give a breakdown of
all components in common foods, as well as some not so common foods.
The study I cited makes a good point, which is that if what we've been
told about how "bad" "saturated fats" are, these southeast Asian atoll
people should be dropping dead of heart attacks like flies, but they
have almost no heart attacks on their native diets, even with high
choleterol levels. What is the difference between an American who
eats chicken and fish and turkey instead of pork and beef? Not much
in terms of saturated fatty acid consumption, relative to peoples who
eat coconut and palm kernel oil as dietary staples.
The evidence, when looked at as a whole, points to free radical damage from the
unsaturated fatty acids,

But if one had to use your same argument then:

"if what you've been telling us about how "bad"
unsaturated fats are, then populations of nuts eaters and fish eaters
should be dropping dead of heart attacks like flies"

Examples like the Kitawans or the Okinawans
A study found that the consumption of unsaturated fats of Okiwanas is
very high, their consumption of EFA is very high and consumption of
fish is 37 times greater than americans'
Yet they have one of the lowest heart disease and oxidative stress rate
and the highest longevity rate world wide

It seems to me that the "whole food" argument contradicts what you've
been saying
You seem to claim that unsaturated fats are bad per se and they're
better avoided
You say that science backs this up

But you'll see that science back this up only as long as you observe
the effects of consuming unsaturated fats as processed, distilled,
long-stored and overcooked foods

But sciences doesn't back this up as far as whole foods rich in
unsaturated fats are concerned

In other words massive consumption of nuts, seeds, fish and fatty foods
like olive and avocados have never been shown to have adverse effects
on
one's health or to cause oxidative stress

You said you're trying to avoid all EFA and that EFA are bad?
But why?!

As long as you don't take EFA from processed oils and you just eat food
like fish and nuts (like the Okinawans do) they won't increase your
oxidative stress rate or increase your risk of heart disease

And as long as one eats greens, fish, nuts in their whole food state
you can't avoid EFA
Even eating nothing but lettuce would provide you the 1-2 g of EFA one
is supposed to need

Also I think the problem of oxidization is better treated with diets
high in fruits and vegetables.
Many studies showed that the best way to lower oxidative stress was to
increase the consumption of green, veggies and fruits ...

Davide

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