Re: What the f is a "lifestyle food cult"?


NoOption5L@xxxxxxx wrote:
TC wrote:
yogigupta wrote:
The new life style in vogue today is to eat natuarl organically grown
foods, There is almost a cult like following for the oragnic foods. The
phrase may not make sense, but is getting wide acceptance as is obvious
from your post.
Yogi
www.IndiaCurry.com

If that is the case, then I can categorically deny being part of this
"movement".

That's very odd. Why do you state that? What are you against?

1) Foods grown without pesticides.
2) Using naturally healthy soils
3) Use of [generally] smaller farms
4) Better for the environment
5) Or is it something else?

Organic designation is not necessarily a guarantee that food is
healthy. Organically grown soybeans are still not real food.

I support the sentiment but the practice of organic farming and
especially organic certification is far from foolproof.


I've never insisted on food being organic, although theoretically organic would be a plus.

I support organic every chance I get. I think it sends a wake-up
call/reminder to food growers.

And I applaud the effort. I just don't rely on organic designation to
be accurate in all cases.


I've always maintained that overly processed and refined foods are
unhealthy. Food is grown, not manufactured. Food ought to be as fresh
as possible. An organically grown food item that has been exposed to
heat in transit and storage and has sat on a grocers shelf for weeks
has lost much of its nutritional values, especially the water soluble
vitamin content.

And foods grown conventionally (I hate that term. It should be
"chemically.") are going to fare better in transport? The only
alternative is locally grown, and I love that too, but your choices are
often limited and there's no guarantee on how, or where, things were
grown.

Unless you grow your own produce. Not hard to do. A couple of hundred
square feet of garden space can add a lot of excellent nutrition to
your annual consumption.


Refined foods have lost most of its nutritional value almost by
definition. Sugar, high fructose corn syrup, soy lecithin, whey protein
powder, white wheat flour, all no longer contain not much food value.

Agreed.

The body builders love and swear by the whey protein though.

I wouldn't rely on them for health advice.


Margarine, canola oils, etc., were never food to begin with. Eating
these fake oils is one massive human food experiment.

I've read the internet "stuff" on canola, but until I read something
from a legit source I'll continue to use it.

It is one of the most genetically modified crops around. Albeit from
selective breeding rather than in vitro. And it is, by far, the most
processed of all vegetable fats.


Same with soybean convert to soy protein and soy juice.

I don't see it being much different from moo milk.

Soy was only traditionally eaten as a fermented condiment and in small
amounts. More than 60% of the soy grown is GM and there is no way to
determine whether what you buy is GM or not. Soy juice contains
phyto-TOXINS and PHYTO-estrogens and high levels of some heavy metals.
It has been known to create thyroid disorders. And it has been known to
contain high amounts of fluoride.

I would not touch soy with a ten foot pole.


Gentically modified foods is a
massive game of russian roulette with the food industry holding the
gun. Which GM "magic bullet" will kill thousands first. And will we
know about it when it happens?

I say we stick to foods that we've thrived on for millions of years.

Have we been thriving on cow milk products for millions of years?

At least since they were domesticated. And then their is goat milk and
others which we have thrived on for thousands, if not tens of
thousands, or hundreds of thousands of years. Real, fresh, full-fat,
unpasteurized, un-homogenozed milk is a very healthy component of
nutrition.


If
you want to net your families health on fake crap manufactured foods,
go for it, free country and all. But I'd be careful of any food
industry propaganda.

I'm very curious as to what you eat every day. Please post a sample of
an average day for you.

As I wait to see yours, here's mine from today.

Breakfast:
3-egg (using "EB" brand eggs) omlete w/yellow, red, green peppers,
mushrooms, sesame seeds, black pepper, red chili peppers, sea salt, and
just a touch of cheddar cheese, some paparika, salsa ("Sadie Sauce")
and a bunch of fresh parsley tossed on top.

On the side: Organic black beans straight from the can, handful of
almonds, a few dried apricots and sour cherries, leftover baked potato
slices w/dab of yogurt.

Drink: "Simply Orange" brand juice (high pulp, in a plastic bottle)
blended with a couple handfuls of fresh spinich. (This frothy green
drink is sublime!)
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Lunch: Amy's brand lentil soup, a fresh pomegranate and a slice of my
wife's home-made apple pie (her pie has whole-wheat crust, fresh apples
and uses Rapadura sugar. It's just phenomenal!)

Drink: Glass of soy milk
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Snack: pumpkin seeds, green tea

Dinner: A hamburger using organic, range-free ground beef on two slices
of Pepperidge Farms 100% whole wheat bread, mustard & ketchup, romaine
lettuce, handful of cherry tomatos, steamed asparagus and a baked sweet
potato.

Drink: glass of cow milk
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Snack: two squares of Lindt 85% dark chocolate bar & cup of peppermint
tea

Patrick


breakfast. 2 to 3 real eggs, fried over-easy or nearly hardboiled or
poached. couple of pieces of bacon and/or sausage. one piece rye bread
toast with lots of butter. tea with no sugar & a bit of whole milk.

Lunch. may be home-made beef bologna sandwich on rye bread. or
made-from-scratch chicken soup. could be home-made chili. whatever I
chose to make. maybe an omelet wirh real eggs sauteed in butter. maybe
roast chicken or roast beef leftovers. a boiled dinner similar to irish
boiled dinner.

supper. may be chicken, pork, beef, seafood, prepared in any of a
variety of ways. I get my meat from a fellow who gets it directly from
the local farmers. or sometimes I'll buy directly from the producer
myself. always fresh veggies. fresh herbs from my garden. moderate
amounts potatoes mashed in rich cream and butter, etc. Ribs, wings,
steaks, chops, whole chickens, real bacon, reals pork sausage. I saute
foods in copious amounts of pork fat (lard) or butter, or sometimes
extra virgin olive oil. Pork fat rules, man.

snacks- home made salsa and corn chips, kielbasa sausage, ham & egg on
1/2 corn fajita, any of a variety of cheeses (full fat), pickles, etc
Real full fat ice CREAM, the real deal.

Nothing from a box. nothing with a food label. All fresh and all
home-made or nearly so.

No added sugars, no margarine, no shortening, NO SOY, no high fructose
corn syrup softdrinks, no wheat flour, no RTE cereals, no pasta, no
white bread, no canola oil, no McDonalds.

I've lost 20 lbs and the wife over 40 lbs. eating this way and my
families prescriptions went from over $1000 per year to ZERO dollars
per year. From a dozen medical visits to virtually zero visits. I've
never felt better, never had so much energy and no longer suffer from
IBS and anxiety/depression as well as infections and colds. How sweet
it is to be realy healthy. My cholesterol and blood sugars are bang on
normal.

TC

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