Re: History of the Coeliac Condition - AND WHOLE GRAINS


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On 4 Jan 2007 08:38:57 -0800, "TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


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On 1 Jan 2007 16:33:05 -0800, "TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


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On 20 Dec 2006 07:01:33 -0800, "TC" <tunderbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Ceoliac disease and whole grains go hand in hand.


Is that not a bt like saying that coeliac disease and food go hand in
hand? I thought that coeliac was due to a genetic problem digesting a
particular protein. Am I wrong here? jack

gluten - only comes from grains.


That's not correct.
There is no gluten in many grains.
Millet, corn and rice just to name three.

jack

What I said was and is correct.

I did not say that all grains contain gluten.

So why did you appear to strongly imply it?

Because that was what you were looking for.

Anyone even remotely implying that grains are not the wonder food of
the last 10 thousand years are attacked as being 'lifestyle food
cultists" and of not being scientific.

So I make it a point of implying that grains are poor food for humans,
which they are. Which in turn brings out all the food industry cultists
to attack me.

Why not say that gluten only comes from wheat and its allies?

Why would I need to be so precise? That wasn't part of the question.

I'm sorry, but unless I'm being paranoid, I smell a strong hidden
agenda in what you said. Have you got some other problem with grains?

Maybe you are being paranoid. Then again, maybe I am too.

And yes, I have a problem with grains. Grains are not the nutritional
magic bullet being touted by the food pyramid hardliners. It is not
even close to being nutritionally useful for humans, especially with
the germ removed and the starch refined to a white powder.


I said that gluten only
comes from grains. Name me one source of gluten that is not a grain.

And it is also correct to say that gluten only comes from food, like I
said by way of example in the first place. Both statements are
inadvertently misleading at best or possibly even fraudulent IMHO.

jack

Wheat has gluten. Wheat is a grain. Gluten is only found in grains
related to wheat. Gluten is not found in non-grain foods. All the same
in the end. Wheat and gluten cause coeliac disease. Is that precise
enough for you?

In the end, grain is literally for the birds. Even ruminants, with four
stomachs, can only handle so much grains in their diets. Too much can
kill them. Why would we believe that humans can live off of a 60%
grains and grain product diet as per the food pyramid recommendations?

And notice how dougie freese pops up his square little food industry
cult head whenever anyone starts discussing grains in anything but the
most glowing terms?

TC

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