Re: A cure for diabetes from 1806?

On Feb 4, 8:54 pm, "TC" <tunder...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 4, 12:17 pm, capm...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:





Not all feedlots feed their cattle on corn, hormones, antibiotics etc.
That is one of the most sweeping, presumptious, unrealistic statements
I've heard in a long time."
Not unless you are also reading what you write about most topics. What
percent of feedlots don't do as above? What do they feed in place of
corn? One presumes a meat industry fella could answer such a simple
question.
Barley, oats, wheat, triticale, lupins, peas, etc. These are more
commonly used for cattle feed than corn.

Proof please, the word you used was "most" which suggests a number as
measure.

Most countries other than the US have strict regulations on the use of
hormones and anti-biotics for cattle used in the food chain. And those
cost money, so any feedlot or producer worth his salt will avoid those
as much as possible. There are other ways to manage cattles health
without using meds.

If cost is a concern those grains and lentiles above cost more then
corn. Explain the economics of deciding to use drugs or not. If to not
use then is less costly why are they used?

I am not employed in the meat industry, I just know several producers.
All of them family operations.

How long has your family been in the meat industry? Not all pr or meat
association lobby groups or businesses actually produce meat, they only
shill for them.

The closest my family has gotten to the "meat industry" was a brother-
in-law who had a dairy farm. Due to larger concerns dominating the
field, he shut it down in around 1973 or 74.

My wife's grandfather had a few cattle until he passed a few years
back (age 86), maybe a couple of dozen head, and her uncle had about
the same and has gotten rid of most of them.

Producers do not use meds unless they absolutely have to and they use
them only as long as needed and for certain meds they can't be sold
until a certain amount of time has passed since the meds were applied.

Why would they waste money on unnecessary drugs when there is no
direct benefit?

And most producers grow as much of their feed as they can. Some of
those crops require fewer inputs and some are grown to both feed the
animals and to provide proper crop rotation and help preserve or
rejuvenate the soil. And when they buy feed they have to get what is
most economical in their area. If they've grown barley or the neighbor
has barley, why would they pay for shipping corn from farther away, if
it makes no financial sense?

These are family farms, and believe or not, they have concerns about
the environment and about the quality of the food they produce. These
people are proud people.

The problems you always fuss about most often occurs in the food
manufacturing area, especially the multi-national corps that fixates
on the bottom line and don't really care about quality as much as
marketting, shelf-life and bottom-line costs.

TC

And corn makes the fat on beef yellowy in colour. Americans seem to
like it, but up here in Canada, we can stand it. Its cheap beef and
the taste and texture is not what we consider quality beef.

TC

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