Re: Mucus forming foods?
- From: crisology <crisology@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 31, 3:26 pm, montygraham <monty1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Now let's see some citations from the relevant scientific literature,
Chris.
Scroll (Aug 30, 11:20 pm, crisology <crisol...@xxxxxxx>) 2 messages up/
some citations were already provided from relevant scientific
literature before you asked. But where are your citations? What about
the details of your vegan diet experience (2nd request)? Without
details of the foods you substituted for meat/dairy, you haven't even
provided anecdotal evidence for your scrambled diet being better than
an organic, vegan diet (in terms of reducing mucus) until you can
reveal what you replaced meat and dairy with...
What fruit and vegetables are to blame for your mucus-forming, failed
'vegan diet'? Or, did you merely replace meat and dairy with rice,
pastry, bread, candy, nuts, etc? Some omniconfused vegans just
sacrifice their health to save animals but this doesn't have to be the
case. Try choosing food alternatives that have the opposite digestive
processes of meat/dairy, to benefit from a contrasting diet (ie raw
lettuce, fruit, sprouts). You can still save the animals while eating
the foods inversely correlated with sinusitis, sinus infections,
bronchitis, colds, flues, allergies, etc!
You have a notion that is simply bogus
What 'notion'?? How??? Please be specific. But it really isn't about
you or me, it is about the classes of food that are related to excess
mucus formation.
but I'm sure you will
never question it for one second,
Never question what?? I question (with every meal), what my diet does
in terms of health. I welcome questions. I questioned each stage of
transition and again questioned when returning to some cooked food
products after detoxing, etc. I questioned you about details of your
diet and why anybody would expect more mucus production after
eliminating animal products but you only want to talk about me, not
the actual affects of food on excess mucus formation.
from now until the moment of your
death.
?? Is this some spell-casting incantation?
Good luck with that kind of attitude.
???
You will need it.
It's not about me, personally. The issue is that those people who
claim they failed with a 'vegan diet', simply did NOT use appropriate
replacements for meat/dairy. What 'attitude' are you rebelling
against, while ignoring the questions about your failed vegan diet
that you blamed for your mucus problems??
Just
keep following your motto (whether you realize it is your motto or
not): "Never let reality interfere with your precious notions."
I've used applied science not "luck" to eliminate ALL mucus problems
with an exclusionary diet (in contrast to your social 'reality'),
after a history of excess mucus resulting from grains, meat and dairy
consumption.
I provided information on the foods I use to successfully eliminate
excess mucus production. I provided scientific references. After
exploiting a 'vegan' lifestyle, you had a temper tantrum, monty.
Now for anybody seriously considering a diet to reduce disease
incidences and wondering if food really does affect mucus production
here is some more food for thought:
Thorax. 1997 Jul;52(7):628-33.
Effect of fresh fruit consumption on lung function and wheeze in
children.
BACKGROUND: Fresh fruit consumption and vitamin C intake have been
associated with improved lung function in adults.
the main outcome measure was forced expiratory volume in one second
(FEV1) standardised for body size and sex.
FEV1 was positively associated with frequency of fresh fruit
consumption.
those who never ate any fresh fruit had an estimated FEV1 some 79 ml
(4.3%) lower than those who ate these items more than once a day (95%
CI 22 to 136 ml).
Frequency of consumption of salads and of green vegetables were both
associated with FEV1 but the relationships were weaker than for fresh
fruit.
CONCLUSIONS: Fresh fruit consumption appears to have a beneficial
effect on lung function in children.
Thorax. 2000 Apr;55(4):283-8.
Consumption of fresh fruit rich in vitamin C and wheezing symptoms in
children. SIDRIA Collaborative Group, Italy (Italian Studies on
Respiratory Disorders in Children and the Environment).
BACKGROUND: A beneficial effect of fresh fruit consumption on lung
function has been observed in several studies. The consumption of
fruit rich in vitamin C was examined in relation to wheezing and other
respiratory symptoms in cross sectional and follow up studies of
Italian children.
RESULTS: In the cross sectional analysis, after controlling for
several confounders (sex, study area, paternal education, household
density, maternal smoking, paternal smoking, dampness or mould in the
child's bedroom, parental asthma), intake of citrus fruit or kiwi
fruit was a highly significant protective factor for wheeze in the
last 12 months (odds ratio (OR) = 0.66, 95% confidence intervals (CI)
0.55 to 0.78, for those eating fruit 5-7 times per week compared with
less than once per week), shortness of breath with wheeze (OR = 0.68,
95% CI 0.56 to 0.84), severe wheeze (OR = 0.59, 95% CI 0.40 to 0.85),
nocturnal cough (OR = 0.73, 95% CI 0.65 to 0.83), chronic cough (OR =
0.75, 95% CI 0.65 to 0.88), and non-coryzal rhinitis (OR = 0.72, 95%
CI 0.63 to 0.83).
...those eating fresh fruit at least once a week experienced a lower
one year occurrence of wheeze (29. 3%) than those eating fruit less
than once per week (47.1%) (OR = 0. 46, 95% CI 0.27 to 0.81).
CONCLUSIONS: Although the effect of other dietary components cannot be
excluded, it is concluded that the consumption of fruit rich in
vitamin C, even at a low level of intake, may reduce wheezing symptoms
in childhood, especially among already susceptible individuals.
Thorax. 2000 Apr;55(4):283-8.
Consumption of fresh fruit rich in vitamin C and wheezing symptoms in
children. SIDRIA Collaborative Group, Italy (Italian Studies on
Respiratory Disorders in Children and the Environment).
A beneficial effect of fresh fruit consumption on lung function has
been observed in several studies.
after controlling for several confounders, intake of citrus fruit or
kiwi fruit was a highly significant protective factor for wheeze.
Eur Respir J. 2003 Apr;21(4):664-71. Nutrition and respiratory health
in adults: findings from the health survey for Scotland.
Fruit and vitamin E were associated with a reduced prevalence of
phlegm production for 3 months or more per year. The most beneficial
combination of dietary components may be found in natural foodstuffs,
particularly fresh fruit.
Int J Tuberc Lung Dis. 2005 Apr;9(4):362-74.
Nutrition and lung health.
Several lung diseases have been associated with oxidative stress and
linked to oxidant insults such as cigarette smoke, air pollutants and
infections.
Vitamin C, and to a lesser extent other antioxidants, have a
protective effect against lung diseases. High intake of fresh fruit
and some vegetables appears to have a beneficial effect on lung health
and their consumption should be recommended on a daily basis.
Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2004 Aug 1;170(3):279-87.
Dietary fiber and reduced cough with phlegm: a cohort study in
Singapore... data suggest that a diet high in fiber from fruit and,
possibly, soyfoods may reduce the incidence of chronic respiratory
symptoms. Associated nutrients, such as flavonoids, may contribute to
this association.
Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2006 Feb 1;173(3):264-70.
Dietary patterns and persistent cough with phlegm among Chinese
Singaporeans.
We identified two distinct food patterns: a "meat-dim sum" pattern
characterized by pork and chicken dim sum foods and noodle dishes, and
a "vegetable-fruit-soy" pattern.
The meat-dim sum pattern was positively associated with new-onset
cough with phlegm
CONCLUSION: A diet rich in meats, sodium, and refined carbohydrates
may increase risk of developing cough with phlegm, independently of
the apparent beneficial effects of a diet high in fiber.
But don't just go by the scientific consensus, experiment yourself
with raw fruit, lettuce and sprouts. See if mucus isn't reduced and
digestion doesn't improve.
With health and questions,
Chris
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