Re: "Screening" tests

From: Robert (Robert_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 07/05/04 

Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 17:59:23 -0700

"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:7k1he01te2vs7ni2t1f9q4cr29ags20an6@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 11:38:58 -0700, "Robert" <Robert@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Dr Fink doesn't want to give us the option of deciding on our own
individual
> >risk assessment. He doesn't want you to know if you have cancer or not
and
> >thus keep you in the dark because of the generalization that all prostate
> >cancer patients should not have known.
> >Why bother going to a doctor in the first place. He has a cynical
position.
> >We are all going to die anyways of something or another in the long run.
> >If the survival rates of those having treatment or not is the same than
it
> >becomes entirely an emtional issue. You need to support the emotional
needs
> >of the individual and the hell with the doctor.
>
>
> Hey, WHOA! Please don't put words in my mouth. This all started with
> my posting of an article concerning the opinions of a credentialled
> researcher and commentator. I never said that anyone should be
> "prevented" from having all the tests one wants (and is willing to pay
> for). Anyone who wants to have needles inserted through their rectal
> wall is fully entitled to that bit of pleasure; I make no attempt to
> deny such folks their preferences.
"That bit of pleasure"? You are dealing with that phobia of yours of
invasive procedures from a strickly emotional point of view.

>
> But for me, who had a borderline PSA test (7) 10 years ago and who is
> otherwise healthy (at age 66), it doesn't make sense for me to get
> "screening tests". My family physician agrees, and that's good enough
> for me. But, those of you who want to be pushed and prodded, please
> be my guest!
You may have had prostatitis or something else elevating your PSA. No said
PSA was 100% specific for anything. More definitive testing would have to be
undertaken and if you want to put your head in the sand and don't want to
know if it's cancer or not then find plenty of sand.
I would prefer that prostate cancer be studied and in order to do that you
must diagnose it first. You mentioned leukemia. Childhood leukemia was
always fatal before treatment gradually progressed to the excellent cure
rate it's at now. If people had simply thrown up their hands and said that
it was incurable so why diagnose it, then no progress would have been made.
You have to look at something in order to study it and not ignore because
their is no cure. That is not science but strickly emotional.
So you are afraid to know if you have prostate cancer, then thanks for your
contribution to the state of prostate cancer research buddy.

>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
>
> Robert A. Fink, M. D.
> Neurological Surgery
> 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
> Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
> 510-849-2555
>
> **********************************
> NOTE: The material above is not "medical
> advice". Medical advice can only be
> given after an in-person contact between
> doctor and patient.
> **********************************

Relevant Pages

  • Re: "Screening" tests
    ... >>Dr Fink doesn't want to give us the option of deciding on our own ... >>Why bother going to a doctor in the first place. ... their is no cure. ... So you are afraid to know if you have prostate cancer, ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: OT great cancer news
    ... John, I love your sense of humor! ... worry about prostate cancer -- just as you guys will never have to worry ... quite effective in the prevention of prostate cancer. ... chronic worrywart, and used to go to the doctor, with every complaint ...
    (rec.crafts.textiles.quilting)
  • Re: Where is MikeinCamden?
    ... Then near five weeks of bleeding with huge blood clots the last week ... I'm still waiting for the follow-up appointment but an A&E doctor ... increase in diagnosis and over-treatment of prostate cancer which in ... not to have treatment if I had carcinoma. ...
    (uk.politics.misc)
  • Re: Where is MikeinCamden?
    ... Then near five weeks of bleeding with huge blood clots the last week ... I'm still waiting for the follow-up appointment but an A&E doctor ... increase in diagnosis and over-treatment of prostate cancer which in ... not to have treatment if I had carcinoma. ...
    (uk.politics.misc)
  • Re: Vibration
    ... I have been getting odd 'vibrations' underneath the surface of the skin ... At first it felt like I had my cell phone in my front pocket and I was ... It is probably wise to have a doctor check you out, but not because there is any special reason to believe you have prostate cancer. ...
    (sci.med.prostate.cancer)