Re: Hey Webmaster
From: Vote Kerry (kerry_at_for.prez.com)
Date: 09/12/04
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:15:35 GMT
Out of Work Programmer wrote:
> Vote Kerry <kerry@for.prez.com> wrote in message
> news:Yjj0d.17956$To4.14051@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
>> Out of Work Programmer wrote:
>>
>>> CPPS (prostatodynia) is not what I said. When I say prostatitis, I
>>> mean, Cat I, II, IIA, and IV. Cat IIIB should not be considered
>>> prostatitis.
>>
>> Why are you writing to this group if you do not understand the
>> definition of prostatitis and CPPS? What right do you have to
>> lecture us if your basic knowledge is lacking? Let me help you:
>>
>> "Chronic nonbacterial prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome
>> (CPPS), where there is no demonstrable infection. Subgroups of this
>> class are:
>> 3.1. Inflammatory chronic pelvic pain syndrome, where
>> white cells are found in the semen expressed prostatic
>> secretions (EPS), or voided bladder urine-3 (VB-3).
>> 3.2. Non-inflammatory chronic pelvic pain syndrome, where
>> white cells are NOT found in semen, EPS, and VB-3."
>>
>> And are you not aware of studies that show that the IIIA and IIIB
>> subdivisions, based on WBCs, are meaningless? That inflammation,
>> based on the more sensitive markers like cytokines, show that
>> inflammation is present in both categories?
>
>
> Check out the following link...
> http://www.urologychannel.com/prostate/prostatitis/index.shtml
>
>
> Pay particular attention to how the types of prostatitis are defined,
> especially prostatodynia..
>
> <<
> Acute bacterial prostatitis (ABP) is inflammation of the prostate
> gland caused by bacteria such as Escherichia coli and Klebsiella.
> Severe complications may develop if not promptly treated. ABP can be
> fatal if the bacterial infection is untreated and travels to the
> bloodstream (sepsis).
>
> Chronic bacterial prostatitis (CBP) is a recurrent infection and
> inflammation of the prostate and urinary tract. Symptoms are less
> severe than those associated with acute bacterial prostatitis.
>
> Nonbacterial prostatitis is an inflamed prostate without bacterial
> infection.
>
> Prostatodynia, sometimes called chronic pelvic pain syndrome (CPPS),
> is the occurrence of prostatitis symptoms, without inflammation or
> bacterial infection.
>>>
>
> so if you are saying that all CPPS patients have a detectable prostate
> disorder, you just shot yourself in the foot. What about women with
> chronic pelvic pain? Answer, if there is not inflammation detected in
> the prostate, the cause of the pelvic pain is something else (nerve
> inflammation, compression of an intervertibral disk in the sacral
> section of the spine, etc).
>
> True prostatitis should be recatagorized in this way:
>
> Category I: Acute bacterial
> Category II: Chronic bacterial
> Category III: Inflammation of the prostate, but bacteria not
> yet detected, or infection with an unknown type
> of bacteria.
> Since all types can be symptomatic or asymptomatic, category IV
> should be eliminated.
>
> Back to my original point, of course CPPS cannot cause cancer of the
> prostate because true CPPS (non-prostatis prostatodynia) does not
> involve the prostate.
You are priceless, aren't you? When spanked for being wrong, you simply find
a page with errors on it and use that as your justification! LOL.
Read this http://www.medreviews.com/pdfs/articles/RIU_21_16.pdf then go
away and stop bothering us.
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