Re: Any Dr. Federico Guercini patients?
- From: "Pete" <petesworkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 04:08:47 GMT
Coilman...you are not a very sympathetic person and I don't think you know
what the hell you are talking about. I usually don't write like this, or
get involved with spam, but you ticked me off. I try to offer encouragement
to others in the group and not play mister tough guy. I participated a lot
in the group back in 1997, but the group has changed a lot, like I said.
First of all I was trying to sympathize with the person I wrote to and offer
him some encouragement since he said he needed some hope, and I spent a lot
of time writing my post to him. You come off with this crap that you have
had prostatitis pain for 20 years, and you bear with it, and go to work...da
da da da. Let me tell you if you had the non stop pain I am talking about
(not every now and then), you would not be going to work and would probably
be considering suicide. I too have had prostatitis on and off for some
years (as well as other serious pain syndromes), but not as bad as this one.
I told you this recent episode was exacerbated by the TURP (which I agreed
to because I was having trouble peeing).
And as far as your statement that you refuse to be cut by a surgeon, that is
totally ludicrous. If you stop peeing for whatever reason, you either have
surgery and/or a catheter to correct it or you will die from infection,when
it backs up into your kidneys. You shouldn't make statements that you don't
really mean. The caveman didn't have a surgeon to go to so he just died.
This is 2005. I have been to over seventy five doctors in my life and I do
not like them, and I agree surgery is a very risky thing with no guarantees,
so I know where you're coming from, but try to be a little more sympathetic,
and understand that sometimes you either have surgery or die, or suffer from
such unbelievable pain that you wish you were dead. And sometimes,
unfortunately, the surgery makes you worse.
Please don't write back again blasting me. I do not play the silly back and
forth notes that some people like to do in the group (unless they are
constructive in nature). I hope your prostatitis, or maybe bph, or maybe
both, never get bad enough so you stop urinating, because then you will need
surgery and/or a catheter. Good luck.
Pete
"Coilman" <hahaha@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Pete" <petesworkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Robert...I don't know where you live, and if you are looking to see Dr.
>> Guercini in Rome as a second opinion, or what. I live in Maryland, USA,
>> (and do not have the exact same condition you do), but I just wanted to
>> let you know you are not alone in your suffering, and I totally
>> sympathize with you, and my heart goes out to you. I too need some hope
>> and it is hard for me to go on - especially living by myself - I don't
>> have any ones shoulder to cry on - LOL. I have been suffering for months
>> with prostatitis which has been exacerbated and made much worse by the
>> TURP I had five weeks ago, and instead of getting better I get worse
>> (i.e. it is not healing properly or improving).
>>
>
> Months? Been about 20 years here and I consider myself as new to it all.
> You just get on with it. That's how you cope.
>
> Oh and I had decided a long time ago never to have a prostate operation. I
> am decidedly untrusting of surgeons. They seem to think the knife cures
> all. So, no matter what, no cutting.
>
>> Have been back to uro who did TURP three times and he says wait. Went to
>> another city for second opinion and he says wait (didn't even examine
>> me). Been to my doctor (mostly for pain control discussion -I can't take
>> opiates or amitriptyline since they constipate me). He would not give me
>> a blast
>
> I take Saw Palmetto only.
>
>> dose of prednisone (nasty anti-inflammatory drug which lowers your immune
>> system and has hordes of bad side effects) since it was not in his
>> training
>
> Yep. Causes bone density loss.
>
>> to prescribe it for prostate related problems, and said he doesn't do
>> prostates (isn't it wonderful). I have taken prednisone several times in
>> my life for sarcoidosis, and post operative inflammation stuff, and
>> respiratory related problems, and really shouldn't take it now since I
>> have a serious T4 cell deficiency ( non- HIV, cause unknown). But I am
>> desperate and it may help the massive inflammation that I know exists in
>> my prostate and urethra/bladder and whole pelvic floor, including the
>> rectum. I have been
>
> A lot of us suffer the same. I cant always walk a straight line without
> bowing to someone with the pain. It doesnt happen that way every day but
> when it's on, it certainly is on. Doing a crap is a nightmare as a result.
> Interestingly, strong coffee makes the crap much easier to do.
>
>> on four different antis almost non stop for months (mostly on my own
>> doing as a prophylactic). I do not believe it is infectious since
>> previous urine samples and prostate secretions did not indicate so. But
>> the son of a bitch is eating me alive, and the TURP has ruined me. The
>> pain and discomfort is indescribable, 24 hours non-stop.
>>
>
> I feel you are concentrating on the problem too much. I take the view that
> it's there and that there is nothing that can honestly be done to cure it
> so I take Saw Palmetto and otherwise forget about it when I can. Sure I
> feel overwhelmingly tired all the time and sure the pain is bad at times
> but you know, I know a lady who is dying of cancer and it is now in the
> bones. She is rotting from the inside out. She chose never to have chemo
> to fight it and wanted to die with as much dignity as she could. So when
> the pain got too bad and they put her in hospital and on morpheine (where
> her neck was ruled broken because it, too, is rotting due to cancer) and
> the poor thing was not really all that aware of her surroundings, her
> grieving family forced chemo on her. She, now, will die in about 3 months
> with no dignity as opposed to days from now with a lot more dignity.
>
> I relate all that to prove there are worse ways to die. If you have no-one
> to think of in order to leave money to and so on, you can basically do
> what you want but if you have someone who needs the money after you are
> gone, you just have to grin and curse.
>
>> I have a lot of pain and burning from my urethra to my bladder and in my
>> prostate, and pain and pressure in my rectum, and it feels like I have
>> pee (real bad) all the time (even right after I go - what a horrible
>> feeling), non stop 24 hours a day (can't sleep or eat or function). If I
>> wasn't retired I would not be able to go to work. I retired early from
>> the DOD when president Clinton downsized the department of defense if you
>> may recall. Sorry I'm rattling on, just need to talk to someone.
>>
>
> So imagine me - I have to work and have all that, too. Stop worrying so
> much about it!
>
>
>
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