Re: Politics: WARNING - MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME

From: Liz (lizhug1_at_mycomcast.net)
Date: 08/02/04 

Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 15:29:54 -0400

>From snopes.com for anyone who wants to read the other side of the story,
i.e., the side that was not written by a conservative Kerry basher.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

"Judity01" <judity01@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040802094943.24774.00000796@mb-m16.aol.com...
> ((at least the other DID put his life on the
> line in Vietnam....Kerry (at least served in a heroic capacity) ))
>
> I found the following of interest. Interpret it as you like.
> //////////////////////////////////////////////
> NOT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE
> By Fred Marshall Jr.
> July 30, 2004
>
> How can anyone keep a straight face and say "I want John Kerry to be
> President."?
>
> Consider what is known. We know:
>
> 1. That he's a "fake warrior."
>
> a. He recommended himself for a Silver Star for something that should
have
> resulted in his court-martial: beaching the boat under his command,
> unnecessarily exposing the boat and its crew to danger; pursuing and
killing a
> wounded and unarmed enemy combatant the Geneva Convention requires
soldiers to
> capture, provide medical care, and interrogate; and leaving his assigned
area
> of operations (AO), abandoning his mission, for the purpose of hightailing
it
> back to headquarters to submit his own recommendation for an award for
himself.
>
>
> b. During his immediate unscheduled trip back to headquarters to
submit his
> recommendation, he went to the PX and purchased an 8mm camera and two
rolls of
> film, then took his crew back up the river and had them film a
re-enactment of
> the alleged event.
>
> c. He recommended himself for a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.
The
> first Purple Heart "self-recommendation" was turned down, and laughed at,
by
> his outgoing commander, so he resubmitted it to the incoming new commander
and
> got it approved, probably signed in the stack of papers every new
commander
> faces the first few days of his command.
>
> d. The doctor who "treated" Kerry for his ONLY officially-recorded
wound is
> a retired physician who recalls vividly the incident. He said Kerry came
in
> with a small metallic sliver visible in his arm, claimed that his Swift
Boat
> crew had come under enemy fire and this sliver was a bullet fragment. The
doc
> wondered why he had not pulled it out with his fingernails and gone on
about
> his business, but went ahead and used sterilized forceps to extract the
foreign
> object (doctors aren't permitted to use fingernails). He says no suture
was
> needed and he applied antibiotic ointment and a band-aid to cover the
"wound."
> He said he questioned the two crewmembers who accompanied Kerry and they
said
> they had NOT come under fire, but that Kerry had been playing and
dangerously
> fired a mortar into a huge pile of rocks and they suspect a piece of the
> resulting shrapnel must have ricocheted and hit him, or maybe he just
punched
> it into his own skin. They were not sure, but insisted they had not
> encountered any enemy fire.
>
> e. The day following the issue of his third Purple Heart, Kerry
returned to
> Headquarters and submitted his request for curtailment of tour of duty,
based
> upon a little-known Navy regulation permitting thrice-wounded sailors to
go
> home. The same rule technically was available to members of the Marine
Corps
> (part of the Navy) but the Marine Corps Commandant did not permit such
> applications; either a single wound was sufficiently serious to require
> stateside medical care, or Marines were returned to duty until their year
had
> been completed. The key ingredient here is that real soldiers and real
leaders
> never willingly "desert" their men and their unit. Countless combat
veterans
> beg to go back to duty with their units even when their wounds will not
permit
> it. Not Kerry; he begged to go home.
>
> f. The Kerry campaign featured, on its website and other places, a
> photograph taken on January 22, 1969, at Tan Son Nhut Air Base, picturing
Kerry
> and 19 other officers of Coastal Division 11 immediately following a
command
> meeting with General Creighton Abrams (CINC of all forces in Vietnam) and
> Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, Commander of all Pacific Naval Forces. When the
> photograph appeared in campaign ads promoting Kerry as a Vietnam hero,
Swift
> Boat Veterans for Truth contacted surviving members of this group to find
out
> how many actually support John Kerry, and discovered that of 19 Swift boat
> skippers pictured other than Kerry, 11 consider him unfit, 4 are neutral,
two
> have died, and 2 are working with the Kerry campaign. Four other officers
were
> not present for the photo session; all oppose Kerry. Only 2 of John
Kerry's 23
> fellow Swift boat commanders, from Coastal Division 11, support his
candidacy
> today. And it's a reasonable bet that those two are being well paid for
the
> images they help to project. This group has filed suit to get a court
order to
> stop Kerry from using the photo, as it implies all pictured actually
support
> his candidacy.
>
> Note: Since I typed the paragraph above, word has been received that one
of
> the two who have been working with the Kerry campaign NOW says that Kerry
is
> unfit (will he give back the money?) so that leaves only one of 23. Not
very
> good numbers to brag about, are they? Here are the photographs, with the
> second one updated at this website:
>
> Kerry's Veterans Photo Fraud, II
> http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/KerryTales/KerryFraud2.htm
>
> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - Service to Country
> http://www.swiftvets.com/
>
> Photo of the Swift Boat Commanders (four not included)
> of the Navy's Coastal Division 11, taken at Tan Son Nhut
> Air Base on January 22, 1969, following their attending
> a meeting with four-star General Creighton Abrams and
> three-star Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, Jr. Abrams was CINC
> of all forces in Vietnam and later went on to command the
> entire U.S. Army. Zumwalt was Commander of all Navy
> forces in the Pacific and went on to command the entire
> U.S. Navy.
>
> g. Admiral Zumwalt, when asked if Kerry was an effective leader,
instead of
> answering the question, called him a "loose cannon."
>
> h. Virtually all of the Vietnam veterans' organizations oppose Kerry
> vehemently. There is one called "Vietnam Veterans for Kerry," but no one
has
> thus far been willing to reveal the number of members it claims. I
personally
> suspect the President and CEO is John Kerry. I recently attended the
Special
> Forces Association Convention 2004 in Las Vegas, attended by some 1,800
Vietnam
> veterans, and anti-Kerry banners and lapel buttons could be seen
throughout the
> venue. Is it morally possible to support our troops and, simultaneously,
> support a candidate for President the vast majority of them bitterly
opposes?
> Can we honestly say that we support our troops yet vote to elect a
> commander-in-chief under whom they wish not to serve?
>
> i. When Kerry returned from Vietnam, after having served barely
> one-third of the normal tour others served, he attended and participated
in
> anti-war and anti-American rallies and activities....some while still on
active
> duty in the Navy....and gave false testimony before Congress that
atrocities
> were routine and commonplace in Vietnam, demonizing and denouncing the
very men
> with whom he later claimed to have proudly served.
>
> 2. That Kerry owns millions of dollars worth of stocks in corporations
which
> outsource much of their work to overseas employees, and is heavily
invested in
> the pharmaceutical industry where profits can go as high as 25,000
percent.
> Early in 2004 he dumped a bunch of those investments when it looked as
though
> he had a chance to win the Democratic primaries..Politics 101.
>
> 3. That Kerry owns eight multi-million-dollar homes, and paid only
$90,000 in
> income tax, as compared to $250,000 paid by George Bush, who has a net
worth
> about one/twenty-fifth that of Kerry.
>
> 4. That, from John Edwards' Convention speech and several speeches by
Kerry,
> he intends to establish one standard education system (which means a
government
> indoctrination system of public schools) and make home-schooling illegal,
along
> with closing (or controlling) all private and religious schools.
>
> 5. That Kerry is against everything military. He has voted against, over
his
> nearly-20 years in the Senate, every single program intended to upgrade,
> improve, or add to the weaponry and technology used by our military, and
has
> voted against every single proposed raise in military pay and benefits.
He has
> not supported even one bill favorable to the United States Armed Forces or
the
> defense of our country. In fact, he has blocked..with the help of Ted
> Kennedy, Tom Daschle, Robert Byrd, and John Edwards..for nearly a year,
the
> recently-passed bill which will afford medical coverage to National
Guardsmen
> called to active duty. It is interesting to note that he has, since early
this
> year, publicly criticized GWB for "denying" our servicemen medical care,
never
> mentioning that it is he who has relentlessly blocked it so that it wouldn
't
> get to the President for signature..Democratic Politics 101.
>
> 6. That he has repeatedly stated he would not deploy the U.S. Armed
Forces in
> any role without first getting permission from the United Nations. That
means
> there would no longer be any sovereignty for the U.S., but our destiny
would be
> under the direction of the Communist-run United Nations.
>
> 7. That he has repeatedly said he would raise taxes, though he makes it
sound
> as though he means he will raise them only on the "ritch." He has never
given
> any details..just vague general class-envy comments..but the
pie-in-the-sky
> things he promises to the have-nots cannot be even considered without some
> source of funding. To a Democrat in Congress, the only source of funding
is
> the American citizens' pocketbooks.
>
> 8. That he supports homosexuals and their deviant lifestyles, and
supports
> same-sex unions and marriages, which most Americans vehemently oppose.
>
> 9. That Kerry is staunchly against the private ownership of firearms,
even by
> law-abiding citizens who wish to have a means of self-defense and
protection of
> their families. He favors rigid gun control by the government.
Throughout his
> career in the Senate, he has consistently attained a rating of ZERO by the
> National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America, for his position on
> Second Amendment issues. When Kerry said, in his Convention speech, that
he
> would appoint an Attorney General who would uphold the Constitution, did
he
> mean "all but the Second Amendment?"
>
> There are many other issues we could itemize here, but a few major
questions
> should come to mind in the brain of anyone who thinks for himself/herself:
>
> a. In the long litany of things Kerry has promised to do should he
become
> President, why has he never introduced a single bill to accomplish any of
them
> over his nearly-20 years as a United States Senator?
>
> b. If he is so in favor of the issues concerning "the working man,"
why has
> he consistently voted against any and all proposed legislation intended to
help
> working Americans, such as initiatives designed to reduce the cost of
health
> care, reduce taxes on middle America, and so on?
>
> c. If he is such a great war hero, and if he earned his three Purple
> Hearts, why has he steadfastly refused to authorize the release of his
Navy
> medical records? Is it because he knows they will show he received no
formal
> medical treatment for the so-called "wounds," or is it because the records
> would show, as some Navy personnel allege, that there is evidence two of
the
> "wounds" were self-inflicted?
>
> d. Since he managed to pay only $90,000 in income taxes this past year
> (while Bush earned significantly less but paid $250,000), should we
believe him
> when he says he will remove tax loopholes for the "ritch?"
>
> e. Now that we know that 22 of 23 Navy commanders who knew Kerry in
1969
> say he is unfit to command U.S. Forces, and we know that two of the
crewmembers
> who served under his command on the Swift Boats, though denied a platform
by
> the mainstream media, say he is a phony to his very core, should we
consider
> voting for him to replace our present CINC who has raised military pay and
> benefits by 28% in just under four years, and under whom recruiting and
> retention rates have reached all-time highs (since WWII), and under whom
> National Guard recruitment and retention rates are unparalleled in all of
> history?
>
> To any doubting Thomases, and to all who are considering voting the
Democratic
> ticket, I suggest a little research. I suggest you examine and compare
the
> Communist Manifesto, the Communist-inspired officially-stated goals of the
> United Nations, and the Democratic Platform. The differences you will
find are
> so minute as to not be worth mentioning. The Democratic Party which
existed
> during the FDR and Harry Truman years has long since disappeared. But the
> self-anointed leaders have fooled most of the rank-and-file Democrats, for
more
> than 45 years now, into believing that the Party cares about its people.
It
> does not. There is no evidence, beyond rhetoric, that it does. I will
feast
> on crow for anyone who can show me evidence to the contrary.
>
> I watched the major speeches of the Democratic Convention, then followed
each
> by finding the written text on the Internet and reading it. Sometimes we
see
> the real meaning of words and phrases in the written text that we didn't
> fully grasp when listening in the emotionally-charged environment of the
> convention, especially when delivery is often interrupted by cheering and
> applause, or blurred by pundit commentary. It's amazing to realize what
is
> unheard or misunderstood in the oral presentations.
>
> All week I noted there were TV promotions for a program called "Last Comic
> Standing" and I thought the Convention could appropriately be labeled
"Last
> Comedian Standing." Predictably, that would be John Kerry but,
undeniably, all
> those who went before him certainly qualified as comedians (based upon
what
> they said, anyway).
>
> The most hilarious, bar none, was when Bill Clinton said that when his
country
> called, John Kerry said "Send ME!" I skinned my knee when I hit the floor
> laughing. John Kerry volunteered for Swift Boat duty when it was a rather
safe
> ferry-boat operation, transporting men, supplies, and equipment between
> relatively secured locations. While he was in school learning to command
a
> Swift Boat, Admiral Zumwalt changed their mission to a combat role. When
Kerry
> arrived, he had no choice but to perform the duty for which he had
volunteered.
> To claim he volunteered for combat duty is deliberately disingenuous on
his
> part.
>
> Despite the undeniable and well-documented facts recounted above, there
will be
> liberals who will parry by asking such asinine and unrelated questions as
where
> are the pictures of Bush in Vietnam, where is his band of brothers, where
are
> the WMD, when did Iraq attack America, etc., ad infinitum. All avoid the
issue
> we face fewer than 100 days from now.
>
> No one, who can vote for John Kerry in November, can do so with a straight
> face, without admitting either that (s)he has not informed him/herself of
the
> facts or that (s)he is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat who would vote for
Mickey
> Mouse if his name were followed by a capital D.
>
> Someone famous once said the following:
>
> "He who knows NOT, and knows NOT that he knows NOT,
> is a fool; shun him.
>
> "He who knows NOT, and KNOWS that he knows not,
> is an unpolished gem; teach him.
>
> "He who KNOWS, but knows NOT that he knows,
> is asleep; awaken him.
>
> "He who KNOWS, and KNOWS that he knows,
> is a leader; follow him."
>
> John Kerry is clearly..in my view..in the first category. Therefore, he
> should be shunned.
>
> However, the big question this November will be, "For whom will the 50
million
> who voted for Gore, in 2000, vote this time?"
>
> © 2004
> Fred Marshall Jr.
> May be reprinted and otherwise
> distributed in its entirety only, with
> copyright displayed.
>
> Fred Marshall Jr., is a retired U.S. Army
> Command Sergeant Major who served
> nearly three tours of duty in Vietnam, two
> of which were in his specialty branch, Infantry.
>
> Said of Kerry on Late Night Television:
>
> "The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection for John
Kerry.
> You can understand why - with two positions on every issue, he has twice
as
> many people mad at him." - Jay Leno
>
> "John Kerry will undergo surgery to repair his right shoulder. He
originally
> hurt it when he suddenly switched positions on Iraq." - Craig Kilborn
>
> "President Bush listed his income as $822,000. You know what John Kerry
calls
> someone who earns $822,000? Not even worth dating." - Jay Leno
>
> "We make jokes about it but the truth is this presidential election really
> offers us a choice of two well-informed opposing positions on every issue.
OK,
> they both belong to John Kerry, but they're still there." - Jay Leno
>
> "Well, the good news for Democrats, now over half the country can identify
a
> picture of John Kerry. The bad news, the majority still thinks he's the
dad
> from 'The Munsters.' " - Jay Leno
>
> "John Kerry accused President Bush of catering to the rich. You know, as
> opposed to John Kerry who just marries them." - Jay Leno
>
> "They say John Kerry is the first Democratic presidential candidate in
history
> to raise $50 million in a 3-month period. Actually, that's nothing. He
once
> raised $500 million with 2 words: 'I do.' " - Jay Leno
>
> "Today, John Kerry announced a foolproof plan to wipe out the $500 Billion
> deficit. John Kerry has a plan: he's going to put it on his wife's Gold
> Card."
> - Craig Kilborn
>
>

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