Re: Cyber meltdowns

blupencl_at_sbcglobal.net
Date: 02/24/05 

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:11:02 GMT

But Dani, if you are an effective businessperson, you don't need anybody
else in your business. I still think you are seeing this from the point of
view of an employee (or is that what you were doing, LOL? I'm so busy I am
doing a lot of skimming) and not a person who is her own boss.

I don't want anybody telling me what I can or can't charge a client or
making decisions for me.

"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ntLSd.25764$Rl5.12796@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> I'll admit I screwed up. Talking about unions is like talking about
> religion
> or politics, it ends up in arguing, and that's not the purpose of my OP at
> all. You all have to understand I'm not talking about a union the way it
> must be now (I'll admit to being ignorant about any union for MTs that
> already exists). I'm talking about forming a new classification where it's
> more like a labor union with an independent local hall in different areas
> of
> the country. A union is for employees who want wages commensurate with
> what
> they do. The union negotiates that for them when a single person can't do
> it
> alone. For dues you get good benefits, job security, the ability to choose
> what job you take (of course turning one down moves you to the bottom of
> the
> list--but is that different than a client not contacting you anymore for
> the
> same reason?), you get a group of people who go to your state and federal
> legislators for you and lobby for prevailing wages and better treatment.
> It
> keeps getting said what can it do for an IC, well, you join the union once
> it's formed and then you have all the things I've listed but are still not
> tied to the same job for 50 years and don't have all the hassles of doing
> everything on your own. You have backers. Remember though, this is out of
> an
> independent union hall, not for an employer who has a unionized staff,
> which
> of course anyone can still choose to go that route--but in terms of
> something closer to IC status is what I'm getting at.
>
> This is my last post on this topic because it's going to get heated and
> there's no sense in that when anyone who's interested can go read about
> unions on their own. Just like religion and politics no one can change
> your
> opinion or your minds but yourselves, but at least by educating yourselves
> you can make informed decisions and understand it before jumping to
> conclusions that may or may not be true.
>
> Dani
>
> "Donna" <donna@removethingsthatdontbelongcroakerwoods.com> wrote in
> message
> news:Xns960492DC24A6donnacroakerwoodscom@68.1.17.6...
>> Seems like we're seeing a lot of cyber meltdowns here in the last six
>> months to a year. To what do y'all attribute this? It seems like the word
>> "sue" is being thrown around a lot. We hear the term "union" here and
>> there. Where did our common sense and moral humanity go? I'm not talking
>> Bushspeak (I'm definitely not a Bush fan nor a Moral "Majority" fan);
>> there is a piece of the human fiber being frayed when we can't dig and be
>> dug at on and off line without the threat of a suit or an organized
>> effort against us.
>>
>> I'm just waxing philosophical, so forgive the intrusion, but all this
>> talk about suits and unions is beginning to bug me. And it seems, in my
>> opinion, to stem from people or persons who would best be served by
>> sitting back and just doing their jobs and growing their harvest, so to
>> speak, instead of spending so much time on the offense and defense of
>> their whatever-it-is-this-week.
>>
>> But then again, it's always interesting to see meltdowns.
>>
>> Carry on.
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Donna
>> http://www.sewing.com
>>
>
>

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