Re: OK, I shouldn't watch the news
- From: "Griz" <DearCounselor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:26:07 -0400
I'd politely tell him you also went to Carnegie Mellon and learned that a
"firm" handshake is a sign of confidence and power, but that you really
didn't need it reinforced each time you met, you already know he's confident
and powerful. And then smile sweetly.
"Susan Mitchell" <medlawtrans@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:i9WdnWRrrpBWC8nfRVn-sg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> I agree. I've always said I can say whatever I want if I'm willing to
> accept the consequences. I cornered our city manager last week at a
> breakfast meeting with a question he wasn't suspecting. He came up to me
> after words after already finding out from my friend who I was and asked
me
> who I was and shook my hand so hard he almost broke it. I squeezed back
as
> hard as I could, which wasn't much as my hand was breaking (hurt clear up
to
> my dang shoulder). DH said he was trying to tell me who was boss. I just
> said that Jean and I would "keep him honest" and would be on his back.
> There's another meeting tomorrow and I forgot to go by the clown shop and
> get one of those hand zappers. DH said to tell him if he shakes my hand
> like that again the city attorney will have it's first lawsuit. I said
no,
> I'll just tell him if he shakes it like that my foot will meet "jake and
the
> twins"! Once again my mouth will suffer me the consequences!
>
> But seriously, I have a question, How should I have handled him
practically
> breaking my hand? I did not want him to know it hurt me but it hurt very,
> very bad and my son was very upset since I need my hands for work. I had
to
> go home and put sports gel on it and massage it for quite some time. Any
> suggestions on what I should have done?
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
> (to reply send to medlawtrans@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> "kathycarp" <kathycarp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:lM-dnY9j8fsa_8nfRVn-gA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Well, then we pretty much agree. I just don't feel anyone is *wrong* for
> > standing on their principles and accepting the consequences (being
fired).
> >
> > --
> > Kathy
> > www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
> > "Griz" <DearCounselor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:3bj31kF6id4ucU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Being an IC changes the picture.... because you CAN pick and choose
for
> > > whatever reason. If you worked for MQ and said I'm not doing XX or YY
> > > procedures but I'll do everything else... yes, I feel the MT is wrong.
> > >
> > > As an IC you're right, you can use any reason in the book. And yes, I
> > > still
> > > think it's ridiculous to not type something because you disagree with
> it.
> > > I
> > > realize it's personal choice, and I'm not debating one's right to have
> > > that
> > > choice.
> > >
> > >> ----------
> > >> Really? Think this through. As an IC I can quit an account because
the
> > >> dictator is a slop-mouth, or because they don't pay me on time, or
just
> > >> because he/she's a jerk and I don't like them. That's a fact. I'll
bet
> > > most
> > >> of us have done it at least once. But, if it's because typing the
fetal
> > >> reduction (or abortion, or whatever) is against my belief system,
then
> > >> you
> > >> think that I would be wrong to drop the account?
> > >>
> > >> I had no idea that one of the perinatologists in this group did fetal
> > >> reduction when I took the account. Thankfully, it is a rare
procedure,
> so
> > > I
> > >> don't have to type it often. However, it is not totally a case of it
> > >> being
> > >> against my belief system, but partly because the decision-making
> process
> > > is
> > >> repugnant to me, like the Chinese woman who had twins, a boy and a
> girl,
> > > and
> > >> of course you know which one was "reduced". (I only mention her
> ethnicity
> > >> because I feel it played a role in her choice).
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Kathy
> > >> www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
> > >> "Griz" <DearCounselor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:3bim6tF6jdm7tU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > yes
> > >> >
> > >> > BUT, I have to believe that you, as an IC, would not have taken the
> > >> > account
> > >> > were it offensive.
> > >> >
> > >> > My greater concern, would be the MT who says, I'll do XX but not YY
> > >> > because
> > >> > you are wrong (thus passing moral judgment in their decision-making
> > >> > process)
> > >> > for doing these procedures. To simply make the choice for
yourself
> > >> > and
> > >> > then live it is one thing. To have me come to your pharmacy and
you
> > > tell
> > >> > me, because your script is for BCP and I don't believe in it, I'm
not
> > >> > filling it, is passing moral judgment, IMO.
> > >> >
> > >> > "kathycarp" <kathycarp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> > news:W5ydnQmhObxpvcnfRVn-vQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> somthing else to think about...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I do an account for perinatologists. I have typed some reports of
> > >> >> fetal
> > >> >> reductions. (oops, I'm pregnant with twins and I only wanted one).
> > >> >> This
> > >> >> procedure and its description could be very offensive to someone (
> xx
> > > cc
> > >> > of
> > >> >> saline were injected, and monitoring was continued until the heart
> > >> >> stopped
> > >> >> beating.) Are you saying that an MT would be wrong to give up this
> > >> >> account
> > >> >> because of her/his beliefs?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Kathy
> > >> >> www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
> > >> >> "Griz" <DearCounselor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:3bidrdF6h2qh8U1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >I would think the two professions vastly different so that
> > >> >> >comparison,
> > >> > for
> > >> >> > me, is like apples and oranges.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I see the pharmacist the way I do an MT.... someone who carries
> out
> > > the
> > >> >> > wishes of a physician. So I guess my mind can't get wrapped
> around
> > >> >> > refusal
> > >> >> > of patient care??
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks for making me think this morning! LOL!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Judity" <Judity01@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:3biasvF6j6ejgU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >> ((Yes, I suppose she WOULD have the choice of going elsewhere,
> > > Judity.
> > >> >> > But
> > >> >> >> I
> > >> >> >> have to wonder....
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> If we're SUPPOSEDLY granted privacy under HIPAA, wouldn't
someone
> > >> > making
> > >> >> >> a
> > >> >> >> values-judgment call on our private medical treatment be in
> > >> > violation?))
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I started thinking further about this after I posted. A doctor
> can
> > >> >> >> refuse
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> >> patient's request for an abortion, which is also a legal
> procedure.
> > > I
> > >> >> > would
> > >> >> >> think he (or she) is acting on a personal belief in cases like
> > >> >> >> this.
> > >> > Why
> > >> >> >> shouldn't a pharmacist have the same right to refuse to issue
> birth
> > >> >> > control
> > >> >> >> if it goes against his belief, in this case probably his
> religion?
> > >> >> >> Again,
> > >> >> >> just my opinion.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Judity
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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