Re: Finding a new Chief Justice



Yes, and things like reconstructive surgery after a mastectomy, plastic
surgery for things like burns or serious disfiguring injury. Those things
are not "elective" in my book.

Barb C.
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> The insurance companies could argue that all cosmetic surgery is elective
> and it is, in the sense it won't kill you not to have it. However, when
> the cosmetic effect desired is removal of something disfiguring like huge
> facial birthmarks, etc., I'd say it's necessary for mental health.
>
> Barbara Carlson wrote:
>> Well, my doctors referred to my joint replacements as "elective" surgery,
>> but had I not had them I would be in a wheelchair and in pain instead of
>> still leading an active and productive life. I suppose it was elective
>> to have my recent hip dislocation put back in place, too! I could have
>> lived with it, though I wouldn't have wanted to.
>>
>> In must cases I think of most (not all) cosmetic surgery as elective, and
>> procedures of that type.
>>
>> Barb C.
>> "Phyllis Nilsson" <phyllisnilsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:431F4AF7.2080508@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>My doctors and hospital use the word "elective" a bit differently than
>>>you.
>>>
>>>RaeMorrill wrote:
>>>
>>>>An abortion would not be elective to some people anymore than having an
>>>>aching tooth pulled would be to you. They simply could not deal with it
>>>>emotionally and would sooner risk death.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Phyllis Nilsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Being better prepared is fine, but if the results are the same, her
>>>>>family aren't going to be any happier and she will be just as dead. A
>>>>>friend of mine went to a hospital (for a different kind of procedure)
>>>>>and spent five months there because of the flesh-eating bacteria she
>>>>>contracted while there. Hospitals may be safer than back alleys, but
>>>>>if the procedure is elective, I'd think twice before having it, even in
>>>>>the best hospital in the country.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anne Vasquez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I suppose, but at least a hospital would be better prepared to deal
>>>>>>with complications, infection, etc. that could result, and the
>>>>>>training of the professionals and sterile technique practiced in-house
>>>>>>surely limit those scenarios anyway. It also wouldn't be too
>>>>>>surprising to see someone who'd had an illegal procedure performed
>>>>>>refuse to present to an ER, even with a raging infection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phyllis Nilsson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Death from a botched abortion (and there are still botched abortions
>>>>>>>even in abortion clinics and hospitals) in a hospital is no better
>>>>>>>than dying from a "back alley" abortion because death is death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>

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