Re: What is wrong with people? REALLY! OMG

And what's wrong with this one?

http://www.pedicraft.com/canopybeds.html

Oh yeah, they probably couldn't lock them in it or keep them from using the
scissors they seem to be able to come by so handily to cut it open and get
out.

I was going to leave the enclosed bed stuff alone, but decided, what the
hey, never know when some of the useless information I collect might come in
handy.

Dani


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"DJGordon" <danigordon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> By the way, you didn't keep reading about this and only posted the first
> thing you found that MIGHT dispute me about the Vail beds....here's what
> you didn't post:
>
> snippet from Phyllis' post:
>
> FDA advises consumers to stop using Vail 500, 1000 and 2000 Enclosed Bed
> Systems until they receive additional instructions from Vail Products.
>
> UNTIL THEY RECEIVE ADDIITONAL INSTRUCTIONS...don't throw them away, just
> wait for the new instructions!!!!
>
> Now here is the followup from vailbed.com...lol why do I get the feeling
> you would have been led here first when Googling for Vail beds and decided
> to not put this in your post?
> "On June 24, without consulting with Vail Products as to accuracy or
> appropriateness, the FDA issued a press release concerning new instruction
> manuals that Vail Products distributed to its customers last week. In that
> press release, the FDA stated that Vail Products had undertaken a
> "recall." "Recall" is a term of art within the FDA that includes all
> changes to medical devices, including new instructions or labels. It is
> not a recall of the products, and there is no reason to discontinue use of
> the Vail Enclosed Bed Systems. In our May 6, 2005 letter to customers
> reemphasizing certain warnings and alerting customers to the new
> instructions that would be coming out, we informed customers that as long
> as they follow the instructions there is no reason to discontinue using
> the beds. The FDA approved that May 6 letter. The FDA's unfortunate use of
> the word "recall" in its June 24 press release is causing unnecessary
> confusion. Vail Products is not recalling the beds in the sense of
> physically removing them, and there is no reason to do so. As we said in
> the FDA-approved letter on May 6, the beds are safe and effective for
> continued use as long as the instructions are carefully followed."
>
> Dani
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> "Phyllis Nilsson" <phyllisnilsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:432C5B41.7020306@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sorry to piggyback, but this may explain why your solution is not a
>> solution:
>>
>> FDA Asks U.S. Marshals to Seize Adulterated and Misbranded Hospital Bed
>> Systems
>>
>> In a response to ongoing concerns about manufacturing quality and
>> labeling, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Department of
>> Justice today initiated seizures of all finished Vail 500, 1000, and 2000
>> Enclosed Bed Systems made by Vail Products, Inc., located in Toledo, OH.
>> Use of these systems poses a public health risk because patients can
>> become entrapped and suffocate, resulting in severe neurological damage
>> or death.
>>
>> FDA advises consumers to stop using Vail 500, 1000 and 2000 Enclosed Bed
>> Systems until they receive additional instructions from Vail Products.
>>
>> FDA is aware of approximately 30 entrapments resulting from use of the
>> Vail Enclosed Bed Systems, of which at least 7 resulted in death.
>>
>> The U.S. Marshal's Office also seized welded in-process components and
>> all labeling and promotional materials for the Vail 500, 1000, and 2000
>> products.
>>
>> FDA believes the Vail products seized today do not meet with the Quality
>> System regulations of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act and pose
>> significant health risk for consumers.
>>
>> The Enclosed Bed Systems are misbranded because they are dangerous to
>> health when used in the manner, or with the frequency or duration
>> prescribed, recommended, or suggested in the labeling. They are further
>> misbranded because they lack adequate directions for use and adequate
>> warnings, thereby placing patients at an increased risk of entrapment and
>> asphyxiation.
>>
>>
>> Phyllis Nilsson wrote:
>>> Dani, it isn't the solution that we would pick if we had a choice, but
>>> Vail beds have been recalled because people died in them and, from what
>>> I understand, they are now out of business because of lawsuits. Since
>>> Vail beds are no longer being made and you wouldn't choose a dog crate
>>> for a child (neither did they, I read they were hand made) what other
>>> humane way could you put together to keep these children safe? Putting
>>> our emotions aside and looking at it from the standpoint of
>>> practicality, what could you personally devise to keep these children
>>> safe?
>>>
>>> DJGordon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I could have provided another humane way. Vail beds for all of
>>>> them. Insurance covers them for special needs kids, so no excuse to be
>>>> in a cage. Phyllis, do you really think that was an answer to a
>>>> possible dilemma they had? Come on, do you go in your local pet store
>>>> and see an ad on their cages that say, great for special needs kids
>>>> too, they can't stretch out even. 40 inches, Phyllis, 40 inches and the
>>>> oldest kid was 14. My daughter is 15 and is 66 inches. That's a
>>>> solution?
>>>>
>>>> Dani
>>>>
>>>> Dani
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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  • Re: What is wrong with people? REALLY! OMG
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  • Re: What is wrong with people? REALLY! OMG
    ... Systems until they receive additional instructions from Vail Products. ... In our May 6, 2005 letter to customers reemphasizing certain warnings and alerting customers to the new instructions that would be coming out, we informed customers that as long as they follow the instructions there is no reason to discontinue using the beds. ...
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