Re: The country I was raised in
- From: "DJGordon" <danigordon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:07:02 -0600
Susan, I didn't realize you were raised in the '50s? My mom was born in '43
and I never got the feeling you were old enough to be my mom.
Dani
"Susan Mitchell" <medlawtrans@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> You obviously weren't around in the 50s. He would have been ostracized
> and
> humiliated beyond belief!
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
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> "Phyllis Nilsson" <phyllisnilsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> I've read this post twice, but have come away with a different
>> perspective. Instead of blaming a teacher for asking a question he
>> didn't want to answer, it may have helped little Michael more had his
>> parents taught him it is fine to be different, that no two people are
>> the same, that he should be proud of who and what he is, not everyone
>> goes to church, and he should not lie. He would not have had to feel
>> "different" or lie about his absence of religion. I guess I'm wondering
>> why someone would blame a teacher for pointing out to her class the
>> diversity of the children there by asking them this question.
>>
>> Gisele wrote:
>> > It was about 1965 when my husband was in the fourth grade. He came
>> > from
>> > an Air Force family that had lived all around the world before the
>> > ended
>> > up settling in a small Southern Illinois, mostly farm community outside
>> > of an Air Force base. His was a nonobserving Jew, his mother a lapsed
>> > Episcopalian. This couple had talked it over and decided to bring up
>> > their children in NO particular religion; when they became adults, they
>> > all could decide what, if anything, they wanted to do about that. So,
>> > my husband grew up attending no church, though he had plenty of friends
>> > who did attend, and he occasionally went to these churches as their
>> > guest and to enjoy social activities. Nothing he ever saw there struck
>> > a chord with him, and he is agnostic to this day.
>> >
>> > Well, imagine his feelings as a 10-year-old when in school, his
>> > fourth-grade teacher began quizzing all the children about which church
>> > they attended. One boy said the Presbyterian church, one girl said the
>> > Baptist. There were even a couple of Catholics. If there was a Jewish
>> > community resident there, you would have needed an microscope to find
>> > it. Finally, my husband, then little Michael, was asked where HE
>> > attended church. The eyes of the entire class were upon him. He
>> > realized that it would not be acceptable to say, "no church, my parents
>> > don't believe." So he mumbled something about going to a church in
>> > another town. He was relieved when the teacher finally moved onto
>> > another topic and the spotlight was off of him.
>> >
>> > I'm glad we don't live in that particular country anymore. Today, the
>> > teacher would probably not be allowed to ask such a question, and even
>> > if she did, all the PC crap that is forced on people in this country
>> > MIGHT have just made her aware of the fact that not everyone is raised
>> > in a faith, or they follow a faith that does not recognize Jesus as
>> > their saviour. She doesn't like to have to think about such things. It
>> > makes her uncomfortable. She wants to turn back the clock to a simpler
>> > time when she could make a boy pretend that he was a Christian just so
>> > that he would not stick out of the crowd too much. I think the promise
>> > of our great country is fullfilled whent majority must acknowledge that
>> > their way is not the only way.
>> >
>> > People in the MTDesk is down thread often said that something they
>> > didn't agree with had to be "PC." I think is a knee-jerk kind of
>> > reaction. When you are tempted to invoke the term PC, step back a
>> > minute, see if you cannot acknowledge that the opposing side MIGHT,
>> > just might, have a legitimate beef with the way things have always been
>> > and with the country that we were born in. I think the country we are
>> > living in NOW is the best possible on earth, and it means that we all
>> > have to find a way to live with each other. It means that some things
>> > will have to change, and that's not all bad.
>> >
>> > Gisele
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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