Re: The country I was raised in-a mite long
- From: "DJGordon" <danigordon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:07:57 -0600
Ooooh....if we had ever told any of our sisters that we hated her in the
presence of our parents....not a pretty thought.
Dani
"Kathycarp" <kathycarp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Funny... those are the two words that we were (especially) not to ever
> say... "hate" and "shutup" (and of course all of the "off-color" words)
>
> --
> Kathy
> www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
> "DJGordon" <danigordon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:P60nf.28344$cA2.19016@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Well, maybe I'm showing a comprehension ignorance in saying I really
>> don't understand what you're getting at in your post. I get your
>> husband's story and I feel for that little boy who didn't know what to
>> say when put on the spot when he didn't want to be seen as different.
>>
>> Now, here is my honest and forthright opinion on the subject as a whole.
>> Since I don't understand your base opinion from your post, I'll apologize
>> now if this seems argumentative, and I'll say I agree if my opinion
>> concurs with your own.
>>
>> I think politically correct is a bunch of hogwash. A spade is a spade. PC
>> to me is a term that when I was a kid would have meant respecting someone
>> else. Take these words: mentally retarded. As a parent of a child who
>> would have been said to be mentally retarded 30 years ago, I had to hear
>> and see people stumble around NOT using those words for five years and it
>> was terrible. Justin was disabled. Yes, he was special needs, but he was
>> mentally retarded as far as we know, since it is a symptom of Menkes, but
>> heck he couldn't talk or walk, so what do we know. Now, the respect
>> aspect of this comes from someone saying you're retarded when it comes to
>> trying to degrade someone. If you respect someone, you just don't say
>> that. But there is nothing wrong in my book with saying someone is
>> mentally retarded if they are actually mentally retarded. It's not
>> derogatory, it's a fact.
>>
>> I'm not weight challenged, I'm fat, or overweight, but then again when
>> someone respects you, they aren't going to say, You're fat. Matter of
>> fact, they aren't going to mention it at all.
>>
>> Now, when it comes to offending someone, it's going to happen. Gee whiz,
>> no one is the same, and no one has the same beliefs, but should we all
>> have to walk around on eggshells? No, just show some respect. If you know
>> someone is a Jehovah's Witness, respect them and don't tell them Merry
>> Christmas, greet them the way you would anyone else during any other day.
>> But if you don't know someone's beliefs and you do happen to say Merry
>> Christmas, in most instances they may smile and say nothing, or even the
>> same to you. While they may not believe, if they have respect for
>> themselves and others they aren't going to go off on a tangent and get
>> rude with you over you not knowing their beliefs.
>>
>> I say throw the political correctness BS out the window and just start
>> respecting people again like we were raised and taught to do. If I had
>> talked to anyone when I was a kid the way I hear kids talking to people
>> today, I would be toothless from having my mouth backhanded. My parents
>> were not brutal but there were things we were taught to do and not do or
>> we knew the consequences. We respected our elders and others. We never
>> used the word hate. We never used the words shut up. We ate every supper
>> together as a family. You didn't watch TV while eating. You kept your
>> room clean and you helped your parents with the house. These were simple
>> rules and as long as we followed them, we were free as birds. Today's
>> generation need their asses kicked a few times and to have to volunteer
>> in a nursing home as I did every weekend. Then they would respect their
>> elders plus know what discipline is all about. Those two things would go
>> along way today.
>>
>> Dani
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gisele" <Gisele.1zw2l4@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Gisele.1zw2l4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> It was about 1965 when my husband was in the fourth grade. He came from
>>> an Air Force family that had lived all around the world before the ended
>>> up settling in a small Southern Illinois, mostly farm community outside
>>> of an Air Force base. His was a nonobserving Jew, his mother a lapsed
>>> Episcopalian. This couple had talked it over and decided to bring up
>>> their children in NO particular religion; when they became adults, they
>>> all could decide what, if anything, they wanted to do about that. So,
>>> my husband grew up attending no church, though he had plenty of friends
>>> who did attend, and he occasionally went to these churches as their
>>> guest and to enjoy social activities. Nothing he ever saw there struck
>>> a chord with him, and he is agnostic to this day.
>>>
>>> Well, imagine his feelings as a 10-year-old when in school, his
>>> fourth-grade teacher began quizzing all the children about which church
>>> they attended. One boy said the Presbyterian church, one girl said the
>>> Baptist. There were even a couple of Catholics. If there was a Jewish
>>> community resident there, you would have needed an microscope to find
>>> it. Finally, my husband, then little Michael, was asked where HE
>>> attended church. The eyes of the entire class were upon him. He
>>> realized that it would not be acceptable to say, "no church, my parents
>>> don't believe." So he mumbled something about going to a church in
>>> another town. He was relieved when the teacher finally moved onto
>>> another topic and the spotlight was off of him.
>>>
>>> I'm glad we don't live in that particular country anymore. Today, the
>>> teacher would probably not be allowed to ask such a question, and even
>>> if she did, all the PC crap that is forced on people in this country
>>> MIGHT have just made her aware of the fact that not everyone is raised
>>> in a faith, or they follow a faith that does not recognize Jesus as
>>> their saviour. She doesn't like to have to think about such things. It
>>> makes her uncomfortable. She wants to turn back the clock to a simpler
>>> time when she could make a boy pretend that he was a Christian just so
>>> that he would not stick out of the crowd too much. I think the promise
>>> of our great country is fullfilled whent majority must acknowledge that
>>> their way is not the only way.
>>>
>>> People in the MTDesk is down thread often said that something they
>>> didn't agree with had to be "PC." I think is a knee-jerk kind of
>>> reaction. When you are tempted to invoke the term PC, step back a
>>> minute, see if you cannot acknowledge that the opposing side MIGHT,
>>> just might, have a legitimate beef with the way things have always been
>>> and with the country that we were born in. I think the country we are
>>> living in NOW is the best possible on earth, and it means that we all
>>> have to find a way to live with each other. It means that some things
>>> will have to change, and that's not all bad.
>>>
>>> Gisele
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gisele
>>
>>
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