Re: Anyone had firsthand experience with Panniculitis/lymphoedema?

Hi Julie,

I don't think we've conversed much before now, so hi there. I have seen
your name here and on a few other boards over the ten or so years I've been
hanging out on a variety of American forums and newsboards. I think I
vaguely remember you having something to do with macros or maybe even voice
recognition - hope you can refresh my memory on this.
I do value your opinion on the outsourcing front and welcome the opportunity
to let you know how I might see things a bit differently.

Here's my take on the points you raise:

You said: That's very interesting, Julie. I would think the exchange rate
would
make outsourcing to American MTs more expensive than using Aussie MTs.

I can understand why you would think this, Julie. The current exchange
rate, taken from www.xe.com a few moments ago is:

xe.com Universal Currency Converter ® Results
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.01.29 00:48:26 UTC.
1.00 AUD
Australia Dollars = 0.751597 USD
United States Dollars
1 AUD = 0.751597 USD 1 USD = 1.33050 AUD


As you can see the AUD is less than the USD. That's why I pay a sub less
than what I charge my client. I am not subbing to make my fortunes.
Rather, I'm doing so because I would like to improve my turnaround, allow
myself time to run my business more effectively, and to have backup in place
should I be sick or want to take leave at any time. Admittedly with the
conversion rate I don't make very much once I've paid the subbie. But
them's the breaks. If I were doing this to make huge profits it would not
be viable, that's for sure. But there is just enough above what I pay to the
subbie and what I charge the client for it to be a workable solution for me.
I hope that clarifies things for you.

You said:
However, Rae has been a very outspoken opponent to offshoring. I would
think even you can appreciate the irony that she's now the one
offshoring.

And rightly so. I can understand why Rae and for that matter, most if not
all of you, object to the outsourcing movement sweeping through the USA.
But I would have to disagree with you as you are saying Rae is
offshoring.....actually I think she is "inshoring". She is receiving work
from me - at my request - an offer made to each and every person on SMT,
American, Australian or otherwise. The fact that I had to post to an
American site to find someone competent to do the work for me should speak
volumes. I will point out again that I have not been able to find this
level of work expertise locally. This is the difference between the
outsourcing situation in the USA and OZ. You have a multitude of
intelligent, experienced, dedicated MTs who CAN DO THE WORK. I for one,
thought perhaps some of you would have been dancing in the streets that
someone was now giving you some of the work back. Let's say outsourcing
is here to stay (even though none of us really want it that way we must
realise with the technology we embrace every day...right now in fact..during
the course of this discussion) perhaps US workers will need to rethink the
way they do things also. Accepting work offers offshore may be one such
change. Or change career. I know which one I'd rather. I'm not talking
about asking anyone to work for peanuts either. I offered US12 cents per
line when I posted my SOS for help. That equates to AU17c. I can't see
anything unfair about that, Julie. Actually, my goal was to offer a win-win
to both sides.

Onto your last point:
What difference does it make if the work goes to India, or America?
I'm kind of curious why you would make the differentiation. Isn't it
all the same?

I hope I'm wrong, but I feel you are implying I'm racist or politically
incorrect. I apologise in advance if that was not your intention. THERE IS
A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO ME WHERE THE WORK GOES. And no, it is not all the
same. Here's why. For one thing, I've not frequented any boards or forums
in India over the past 10 years. Owing to the lack of any MT infrastructure
in Australia I searched the web and to my delight found many of you working
in this field, with dedication, expertise, honesty and integrity. Why look
elsewhere (India, England or anywhere else for that mater?) when these were
the very qualities I was hoping to find. Also, discussions began to spring
up, left, right and centre, once the India outsourcing situation began to
take hold. Not from me, mind you, but from many US MTs. Again, I will make
the point that I was hoping to redress the situation for anyone who might
have been bitten and lost work to India, to have the opportunity to recoup
that loss by taking on some of my work. This is the win-win situation, I
refer to above.

Julie, in closing, I'd just say that I think your posts have raised some
excellent counter points to my position. I'd love to hear your thoughts on
these and hope you might see where I am coming from.

Over the years that I've watched the threads on SMT I've seen quite a few
mini-wars rear their ugly heads. I'm totally not interested in winning any
wars, starting, contributing or finishing them. I think there is room for
all viewpoints and that we may all have valid points from our individual
positions. The internet is a marvellous tool and I'd be so unhappy not to
have this medium for communication and connection with the world. I've met
such wonderful people from all walks of life. I value and honour those who
have accepted me here...even though I come from the land downunder. You've
all been very kind and generous with your time and offers of help regards
information about the MT industry (expanders, forums, software, line counts,
to name just a few). I would never have learnt about any of these things in
Australia as the industry did not exist in any shape or form. As I've said
many times before, it is only just starting to become a recongised field in
its own right. Do a google search (check the Australian button) or type in
www.google.com.au and you can see for yourself what's on offer. Then go a
step further and ask if they have anyone who could help you out immediately
and what the charges would be. The larger corporate type sites will gladly
assist and charge you very high rates for it. But you would win on the
currency conversion front. I only suggest this so you can see for yourself
what is available here. I don't want to deal with corporate type structures
because I want total control of my work and where and to whom it goes. I've
tried contacting the "individuals" who have sites, but in the main I've not
had any success - a lot say they are medical typists (many do not see them
as MTs as they do not even know the term) but when queried on specialities,
etc., the replies are often "well I've typed a few reports for a university,
etc". That is not what I need. I need those who are fully equipped to
handle most any speciality, quickly and proficiently. And what better place
to find that than on SMT.

Golly, I'm long bloody winded and I do apologise for that. But only by
letting you know my full views on the topic at hand can you have a chance of
understanding my position.

Please feel free to respond as I'd be very interested to hear your view on
the above.

Cheers and best wishes to you and anyone else who has had the patience to
read this far.

Bye for now, folks

ozgal (Julie, Melbourne, Australia)


"JulieW8" <seemysig@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:43dc0a67.185382626@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> That's very interesting, Julie. I would think the exchange rate would
> make outsourcing to American MTs more expensive than using Aussie MTs.
>
> However, Rae has been a very outspoken opponent to offshoring. I would
> think even you can appreciate the irony that she's now the one
> offshoring.
>
> What difference does it make if the work goes to India, or America?
> I'm kind of curious why you would make the differentiation. Isn't it
> all the same?
>
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:29:34 +1100, "ozgal" <ozgal33@xxxxxxxxx> gave
> thanks and said:
>
>>Hi there Jeannie,
>>
>>Wonder no more. Yes, I think ozzies are as concerned as Americans about
>>the
>>outsourcing to India. For the most part here the outsourcing has been to
>>telemarketing companies. Australian (and American) companies, Hewlett
>>Packard to name just one, have begun to outsource their "support" lines to
>>India. It has made it very difficult when needing to ring for support as
>>those I've come across tend to speak very rapidly with a totally different
>>inflection in their words that makes it very hard to understand what they
>>are saying.
>>
>>It's all about money these days - not service. Totally unacceptable IMO.
>>
>>As far as MT jobs there is one doctor in New South Wales who has gone
>>public
>>with his inability to get quality work with good turnaround on his own
>>shores. He has outsourced to India and seems delighted (much to my
>>surprise, because I cannot imagine the quality not suffering to a large
>>degree). I may even make contact with this doctor at some future point to
>>see just how well it is working for him down the line. I think someone on
>>SMT may even have posted the information about this doctor. I followed
>>the
>>trail and even looked into the company he had sent work to in India.
>>Guess
>>what....no slave rates...they were changing a line rate very similar to my
>>own. So the doc was not saving money-wise that's for sure. His main
>>emphasis seemed to be that while was sleeping with a smile on his face,
>>his
>>worked was being transcribed, ready for him to sign when he reached his
>>office. No comments were given about the quality of the work though...the
>>area that I'm most concerned about.
>>
>>The clothing industry here is another one I can think of that outsources.
>>The reason they give is that everyone has to be so competitive these days
>>and it's too expensive to hire in Australia.
>>
>>I hate to agree on this point but that's what I've found also. I cannot
>>afford to hire someone locally with all the attendant costs that go with
>>that. Hence, my decision to sub out some of my work.
>>
>>I'd be the first person to find someone locally but as mentioned in my
>>earlier post I've been totally disappointed on that front. So until an
>>industry springs up here in the MT sector, with educated people who can
>>think on their feet and do the job well, I will continue to find the best
>>person for the job wherever that may be. Rest assured though I don't
>>think
>>I'll be contacting anyone in India.
>>
>>I hope that answers your concerns - but to really know how Aussies feel
>>about this subject you'd have to find a few more of them and compare their
>>replies.
>>
>>The absence of other Aussie MTs on this board over the years is testament
>>to
>>the fact there are not many of us over here working independently.
>>
>>Cheers and thanks for your thoughts. I'm always interested to share my
>>thoughts and listen to those of others. Only way to learn I reckon.
>>
>>ozgal (Julie, Melbourne, Australia)
>>
>>"Jeannie Wilson" <jwilson421@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:Xns97597B0E8251Bjwilson421comcastnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> seemysig@xxxxxxxxxxxx (JulieW8) wrote here for all to
>>> seenews:43db06d7.118934759@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>>>
>>>> Aren't you afraid you're taking jobs away from Australians?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if the Australians are as rabid about offshoring "their" work
>>> as
>>> some are about the offshoring of "Americans' work".
>>
>>
>
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