Re: The elephant is in the room. Want to discuss it?

Well said, Janice!

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LizzieB. wrote:
I'm gonna take a different tack and circle this back around to the idea
of picketing and protesting and social security. QP, you said you gave
us (the baby bust and gen x'ers) choice (I was assuming you meant
abortion). That's true.

By choice, we also gave you the choice to keep a baby if you weren't
married and not have to live with the lie that it was your mother's
baby. We also gave you the choice to have an open adoption if you
chose not to give up a baby, but yet wanted to know where they are and
may be even participate in their lives.

We also gave you the choice to be able to work if staying at home and
just being a mommy wasn't enough for you. We also gave you the choice
to job share and work part-time and hopefully not have sexual
discrimination at work. We also gave you the choice to pick any career
that you wanted and pretty much to go to any school that you wanted to
go to.


However, what the boomers also got with that deal was: Almost 47.3
million fewer people to support them through social security
withholdings.

When push comes to shove, this is the way I see it: The protesters got
their very short-sighted (and, IMO, selfish) wishes granted in 1973 by
their "parents" (the previous generation) and now they're going to get
their very short-sighted (and, IMO, selfish) wishes granted yet again by
their "children" (the following generation) at a cost that it 7 to 10
times what they paid.


Here is a problem with your theory, the boomers/protesters aren't even
collecting SS yet (well maybe one and a half years are but not many).
We are still paying for my parents generation and your grandparents
generation. Are you parents even collecting yet? There is enough of
us to sustain them, or would have been if drugs and costs hadn't
skyrocketed, which is not something that even we could have predicted.


And all my generation (and the one behind mine) wants is for the boomers
to take their benefits and run, and let US have the social security
program WE want, but no. The boomers won't even let us have that
because somehow they think they'll be cheated out of what they're owed.

What program do you want? The boomers really do not believe that the
SS is there. They hope it will be, but down deep they don't really
think it is.

So anyhoo, all that was to say that overall, I see the boomers as a
generally selfish and short-sighted bunch of people who aborted 47.3
million people who would have helped to take care of them in their old
age.

This may be true, but hopefully one of the choices we gave you was not
to have children just to support you in your old age. I don't know
what will happen with my generation, but I do believe you will see
things like communes, and single/widowed/divorced women pooling their
money and living in houses taking care of each other with the money
pooled to take care of all of them until the last is gone.

And frankly, all I see down the abortion road (with all its twists and
turns) is another Dr. Mengele or six warming up in the bullpen.

As I said in my posts, I do not believe NY or CA will EVER outlaw
abortion because there are enough people living here to take care of
this issue. When every survey is done, it is touted that more people
believe in Choice than are willing to admit on camera or while being
interviewed. When push comes to shove, all the Pro-Life people might
get a surprise if it comes to popular vote, they may be a few ballots
few to take this away.

Janice

PS: IF this thread morphs into this, then I am going to start another
thread so that this one is Life/Choice and another one for what should
be done with SS.



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