Re: The elephant is in the room. Want to discuss it?

And I'd add to your last remarks, if you are a man and your wife is raped and conceived, can you love her, not recoil from her body against you in bed at night when you feel that child kick, can you love it as if it were your own? If not... well do the math

vanessa wrote:
I was prompted to write not because of what Lizzie said, but because of
this statement, which followed a comment about the possiblity of
parental rights of a rapist:


But how in the world did we reach the place where we include killing an
unborn baby in the same category as keeping it or allowing it to be
placed for
adoption and call that "choice"?



What "choice" does the victim of rape have when she is being
brutalized. What "choice" does she have if she cannot obtain a legal
abortion. She can bear the child or go to a back-street abortionist
and risk her life, all because she was the victim of crime.

That comment that I quoted leaves NO leeway for children of
rape/incest.

You can be against abortion in general but still allow for exceptional
circumstances, which Lizzie did.

I am no fan of abortions. I think that they are the lesser of 2 evils
at times. I am also no fan of treating women like slaves that must
accept bearing the offspring of those who committed a crime against
them. Men used to be able to divorce us over a cuckold in the nest,
but now it's okay for us to have to bear children of violent acts?

Before anyone says that there should never be any abortions, they need
to make that statement subjective rather than objective. Decide this
for YOUR daughter rather than for everyone else's daughter. If your
son or his friend raped your 12-year-old daughter, would you think she
should keep the baby? Would you put her through the shame of everyone
knowing, the emotional distress, and perhaps permanent psychological
damage? Would you take her out of school and watch her stomach grow
with that child and be okay with it? Would you be willing to help
raise that child? Or would you want her to get an abortion as quickly
as possible?

If you believe in NO abortions at all, EVER, then you must accept that
you believe you could handle the above situation. You are a lot
stronger than I am.


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