Re: OT: Shades of gray?

I have a hard time thinking someone that thoughtlessly cruel is a good person. Ever. How can anyone be so cruel? A remark like that could turn someone away from ever trying to seek the beliefs she thinks are right - in effect by her belief system costing a soul. I couldn't deal with ever communicating with her again for fear of having to hear something like that again. Ugh. Would she have felt the need to be so "honest" if you'd had a young child there who had lost their daddy?

Blupencl wrote:
Kathycarp Wrote:

Couldn't lie? So, did someone ask her, "so what do ya think? Is he in
hell?"
Good grief. Does she also go around telling people that they are ugly?
After
all, can't lie. People like this need to have some lessons in humility.
I
hope she gets some real good ones in her lifetime.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"Pam Persons" <personsp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ouch...my ears are burning. ;) Actually I didn't hear what she said

and

didn't realize what had happened until H. told me once we got home.

I

must have walked in just after she said it, though, because I

remember

things got quiet when I came back in the room. I just figured ya'll

were

talking about me.

To this day, I can't believe a friend could be so cruel. Even if she
someohow absolutely knew it to be true, which, of course, no one ever
could, she should have kept it to herself. When I confronted her

about

it, and she said she "couldn't lie."

BTW, that's specifically who I had in mind when I said some folks are
afriad to look at the gray areas in life. Ask me about that Hebrew

novel

she's had for 2 years and is afraid to read.

"Blupencl" <Blupencl.25cnkd@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Susan Mitchell Wrote:

What a pig that preacher was and may I add typical of the
fundamentalists I
have run into in my path, wastes of human flesh! I wasn't going to
jump in
this thread but preachers like that are why I'm not attending

churches

--
there are way too many of them -- in fact I feel they all have a

bit of

that
in them.

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
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"Sandi" <SandiWorkman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If so, then that's exactly what I was referring to. Sitting here

in

class, I don't have a Bible on me, but my belief is that it is

not up

to me to judge whether anther person is a Christian because I

can't

possibly know what is in his heart. Of course we are instructed

to

show our Chrisitanity to others through our behavior, but since

none

of

us are perfect, it's entirely possibly to have the proper heart

and

still make mistakes that would lead others, if they aren't on

their

very best Christian behavior, to point fingers.

I sat at my father's funeral and listened to a fundamentalist

preacher

say, almost verbatim, "Bill wasn't a Christian, so he's in hell

today,

but you don't have to be." He honestly thought he knew my

father's

heart. What a sick, sick example of a man professing to be a
Christian.

Sandi


I had a friend say something similar to that to me about my husband

-

to my face - in the physical presence of somebody who is on this

board

right now. :) She didn't mean anything hateful to me about it at

all.

It is just that she truly believed it.

I realize I'm not God. I realize I don't know what's in everybody's
heart and I'm not sure about all the rules. Nonetheless, I can speak

to

some of what was in his heart, and as mad as he made me, and with

all

the bad things he did in his life, he did many, many good things,

and I

can't see a benevolent God putting him in hell. He couldn't help his
raising and he struggled all his adult life to TRY and believe. He

just

didn't have the foundation.

I still love the friend who said that to me, but it made me more

than a

bit mad at the time till I realized that we all have our beliefs,
whatever they may be, and hers don't have to match mine. :)


--
Blupencl


Seems like we were having a religious discussion already - then again
you can see my memory is faulty because I thought Pam was sitting right
there.

She *is* a good person with a tender heart. She is just concrete in her
beliefs - not a speck of gray on that girl anywhere - and I think she
thought she was doing a duty by telling me that.

She is still a friend. We e-mail every day, but I was upset by the
remark for a long time. I'm pretty firm in my own faith and beliefs and
my heart isn't as shaky as it was then. I still will never forget it,
though. I think my eyes bugged out and my face turned red.


.

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