Re: Shades of gray?


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Su wrote:

If a person's beliefs are strong enough, you can't destroy them. You
might get them wondering about things for a bit, but they'll come
right back to what's in their heart.


Not always. Sometimes their hearts change.


But not in response to someone who is attempting to "destroy" their
beliefs. All that does is hurt and alienate people.


Which is precisely why missionaries need to stay out of other countries,
like Iraq, and let those of the Muslim faith continue to be Muslims ...
and not have their belief "destroyed" so they can be converted into
Christians.

Yeah, I'd have believed that, too, until I took a class in Muslim culture
and law last semester.


Care to share?

I did share some of it back then, so those who are bored by it, now's the
time to change the channel. :)

I signed up for a course in "Islamic Jurisprudence," hoping to learn more
about the way in which Islamic countries conduct trials and approach legal
issues. I was shocked to learn that there is very little in the way of
secular law in Islamic countries. Essentially the law in an Islamic country
is the Quran...as interpreted by those in power, of course.

I spent an entire semester at law school in religious indoctrination. The
"professor" was from Jordan, and we missed our first few classes because he
had visa problems. Once we got started, he had us start reading the history
of Islam. Unfortunately the history of Islam is contained in texts from
many years ago, translated in barely legible English, and full of
propaganda.

It is true that under Islam anyone who converts to Christianity, or any
other religion, is to be put to death. He says that's really not so bad as
it seems, because all you have to do to avoid the death penalty is renounce
your new religion and proclaim that you are again a Muslim. To help you do
this, your fellow Muslims may spend 3 days trying to convince you to repent,
but if you don't, at the end of 3 days you are put to death. He says this
is unlikely to happen, because anyone would say they are a Muslim rather
than die. He says in this way it really isn't bad to change your religion,
only to publicly admit that you have done so. Admitting you have done so
would encourage others to do so, which is like treason, as you are
encouraging people to leave Islam.

Regarding women, he spent many days telling us how women have it so good in
Islam, that we just don't understand. Women have to cover their entire
bodies, faces and hands included in many places, not because they think
women are bad, but because men have no self control. There is no reason to
place temptation before a man, because if he cannot control himself, that is
not his fault; he is just a man. So it is up to the woman to cover herself
for her own protection.

Any country which is not Islamic is considered a country of heathens and is
to be conquered, and if it cannot be conquered, avoided.

Anyone who proseletyzes in a Muslim country is subject to death, because
they are again encouraging Muslims to break with their faith, which is also
their government and their identity. Hence, Christian missionaries should
be put to death.

He reminded us repeatedly that if they wanted to destroy us, they could
certainly do so, as there are so very many of them in the world.

Interpretation of the Quran is forbidden except by very specific methods -
i.e., one can subscribe to one of the "schools" of thought. The schools of
thought vary very little in actual substance, and differ mostly in terms of
process. The complete and total subjugation of women (which he would say is
the honoring of women!) is a theme throughout, as is the idea that it is
better to die than to turn away from the Muslim faith.

I signed up for the class hoping to dispel some of the myths I thought I
might be holding about Islam. I came away absolutely terrified of it. I do
not think that people understand just how dangerous this "religion of peace"
is.

Sandi


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