Re: Father's rights

Or leave and get some protection, or leave and go to a shelter for a while.
There are options. They don't always sound like a lot of fun, but when you
have to maintain your safety, sometimes life gets a bit inconvenient for a
while. It's unfortunate, but it's just life, and life isn't fair. In the
end the choices are to continue to be a victim, or to take control of your
situation.

Sandi (who is not talking out of my a**, but has lived it)

"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes,I know but it still comes down to blame the victim. Not all of these
spouses were bad when they met them. How many times, though, have I heard
the scorn expressed because "well, she won't leave him." Sort of a
catch-22. Stay and be beaten or leave and die.


Maureen wrote:
The biggest problem is resources. Public resources are already
stretched to the limits. To afford additional police protection, then it
is going to cost and where does the money come from.

The laws are written to try and protect individuals, but in no way can it
ever anticipate every possible scenario which is why people need to be
diligent.

Yes, there are scenarios where people are stalked by total strangers, but
those cases are few and far between. Maybe if people stopped having
relationships with crackpots (and usually they are crackpots when you
meet them, not just after you started being with them), the need for
domestic protection orders would be less. But people continue to make
poor choices which lead them down this road and suck up the resources
that are in place.

Maureen

"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I do feel people should be able to expect to be protected by the law,
especially when they've done nothing wrong. I am sure that the woman (or
the man) who is the victim often contributes to the escalation of
violence, but there are also cases of people being stalked by complete
strangers, who have done nothing except exist to merit the unwanted
attention. The law expects me to abide by it; in return I do not think i
t is unreasonable to expect protection.

Sandi wrote:

"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes, but that is little comfort to the victims.


My point was that you seem to put so much responsibility for people's
personal safety on the police and they are somehow deficient if a crime
is committed. There is plenty of blame to go around when a history of
domestic violence results in someone's death, but unless the police have
been truly negligent - i.e., not answering emergency calls and the
like - none of it can reasonably be assigned to them.

Sandi



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