Re: Fusion Barrier Limit extends into biology and solving diseases such as cancer, Alzheimers etc ; future direction of Cancer-- bypass it

From: Brad Edwards (bradedwards_at_emailaccount.com)
Date: 06/16/04 

Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:03:48 -0400

Archimedes what is your deal?

Do you have a brain disease? Has old age taken a toll on your mind? Or
have you always been like this?

Why do you feel compelled to post things like this every single day?

Why do you ignore all of my questions?

Why do you like to pretend that you either invented some great theory,
or are on the verge of discovery? Are you real old and realizing that
you didn't accomplish a fraction of what you intended to, so are
desperately trying to make up for lost time?

Or are you just insane?

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> It is fitting that I should begin such a new theme on a day I am sort of
> feeling down mood.
>
> I am reflecting on how difficult it is to get answers on cancer; solve
> cancer. Is cancer disease a question of atoms in molecules going one way
> or another and thus either cancer or no cancer. I was reflecting on how
> difficult it is to solve Alzheimers or Parkinsons.

Atoms going one way or another?

> I was reflecting on the fact that human medical science has not made one
> dent into the vast ocean of unknowns about viruses. And the fact that
> viruses seem to never be conquered. That the war on viruses seems to
> always favor the viruses.

We will always be one step behind. The day that we eradicate viruses is
the day humans will become extinct.

> If human bodies were like machines and robots we could analyse diagnose
> find what is wrong and fix it. Diseases seldom trace such
> straightforwardness to a solution.

Because we aren't machines, and using mechanical diagnostic methods can
cause more harm than good to the organism as a whole. But we must start
somewhere, and hopefully someday we will progress to a new
methodology/understanding that will allow us to analyze the organism
with more success.

> Perhaps there are some diseases connected to aging and that they will
> never be solved or fixed simply because the body itself must age. So
> these protein diseases of Alzheimers, Parkinsons and Prion are just as
> much about the aging process as the details of the regions of the brain.

Then why doesn't every single aging person develop these diseases? Of
course Alzheimers is connected with the aging process, but that doesn't
make it a normal course for everyone.

> And it seems as though our increase in knowledge of cancer never really
> amounts to much. We can take an old car and fix it up so as it runs
> almost like new. We cannot do that to animal bodies. Not just a lack of
> understanding and knowledge of what is wrong but it seems deeper than
> that.

A car is constructed with individual replaceable parts. We'd like to
think that organisms are the same, with replaceable organs. We even
replace some of them. But an organism is not a construct, and is not
made up of individual components. It is a complex network, and just
because we draw lines and designate some area as an organ doesn't make
it separate from the rest of the body.

> I am wondering on a day like this, whether there are limitations of
> science as to ever understanding what happens in diseases like Cancer or
> Alzheimers etc.

There's only one way to find out isn't there.

> Sort of like a Uncertainty Principle, only instead of the parameters of
> energy and time, the parameters of never knowing what goes wrong in
> making a cancer cell. The Uncertainty Principle applies to the
> microscopic realm of matter, but cancer cells and Alzheimers have
> microscopic realms.
>
> I am the author of the Fusion Barrier Principle which is another
> limiting principle which says that no machine can simultaneously control
> fusion and exceed breakeven. Either the control is lost or the breakeven
> point is lost. In fact the number is 2/3 breakeven is the maximum any
> tokamak can reach yet still controlled.
>
> So if the FBP is true, then are the implications such that some diseases
> like cancer are never able to be fully understood and simultaneously
> cured?

I'm not even going to respond to all of this.

> Same question for Alzheimers and Parkinsons and Prion.
>
> The FBP for physics says that our Universe is so constructed that energy
> and control of energy cannot co-exist when in a fusion machine reaches
> 2/3 breakeven. If FBP is true, then, is it ingrained in all of Nature
> that it seeps down into biology and says that we can never both
> understand cancer and control (cure) cancer? Seems highly farfetched.
> Seems like the Uncertainty Principle would say more about whether cancer
> can be fully understood or not.
>
> So this leads into the questions of whether it is best for the world to
> keep up this pace of cancer and protein disease research. For is not
> that research after a narrowminded goal of conquering by fully
> understanding and then treating with a cure?

No, the pursuit of understanding something we don't understand is far
more complex than simply curing a disease.

> Instead, Aging is perhaps the key ingredient that creates and spurs
> these diseases onwards. So to cure cancer or Alzheimers while doing
> nothing about aging seems rather narrowminded.
>
> What I am going to propose is for the Medical Community to stop for a
> moment and step back from its hot paced research and ask the questions
> that perhaps Cancer or Viruses or protein diseases will never be
> understood with any degree of confidence and that they will always be
> side by side to humanity as nemesis.

Why do you bother to propose anything at all? I already tried to turn
your other proposition into a reality and you didn't respond to my
e-mail. You are in no position to propose anything, and you need to face
the fact that you are not contributing much with these posts.

> It is like saying that if FBP is true then it is fruitless to think that
> we can monitor can keep tabs on all atoms involved in the plasma so that
> we can surpass 2/3 breakeven.

What is FBP? You can't just make things up without providing solid
experimental data and base your entire thinking upon something that has
no proven basis in reality. According to the CPP (crazy person
principal) FBP is nonsense.

> I propose there is a cure for cancer and Alzheimers and Parkinsons and
> Prion and viruses etc etc. It is called BYPASSING. Instead of spending
> time, energy, money pouring into medicine, why not bypass these
> diseases.
>
> Admit that as we get older and age we are closer to death. Accept death
> instead of trying to superficially tinsel apply potions and ointments of
> medicine. The cure is ---- cloning. We find out we have cancer of
> whatever, then we do not go on these medical programs to fight it. We
> submit to death approaching. And if possible we clone ourselves and
> leave behind details of our lives to our clonee.

You ALMOST made a good point there. At the beginning you hit the nail on
the head, that we need to accept aging and death. I think this is a very
big problem in your life and it is the motivating factor behind your
crazy posts. It would've been more fruitful if you would have accepted
your fate as a kid, so that you'd have time to prepare and would know
what you needed to do with your life in anticipation of your old age and
death.

The cure is NOT cloning. You completely blew it with that statement and
you overlooked the most obvious and most advanced solution available.
The cure is called procreation. Instead of being a selfish fool who is
desperately trying to cling onto the sides of the cliff as he plummits
to his death, you need to stop thinking about your own person and help
the more advanced younger generation. Why would anyone want you to be
cloned? So they can make more FBPs? So they can post more things here
for kids like me to become frustrated with? No, the next generation is
always an improvement on the last. So you are an outdated model. Accept
your fate.

> So instead of fighting these diseases when death will overcome us all. I
> say do a side-step motion. Do a Bypass motion. Submit to death
> approaching and if possible make a clone of yourself and leave as much
> details about your life to the clone.

Better yet, have a kid, and nourish him with everything you wish you
were nourished with. Not only will he have you inside of him, allowing
you to continue on, he will also be an improved version of you and
better adapted to the world which you are about to leave.

I AM my father and my mother and every single person in the entire
ancestral chain leading up to them. I hear my fathers voice when I
speak. I see through his eyes. But it's much deeper than that. It's not
just feeling some similarities to him. I am my parents. I don't know if
they recognize this, but I feel as if I was them, I lived my life and
had sex, and out popped myself... only a more powerful version of
myself. I'm not how I used to be when I was just my father or just my
mother. I'm now the combination of both of their strengths, and I am far
more pleased with my new existence than with when I was just my father
or just my mother.

I'm sorry if you never had kids, but you will be very disappointed with
the cloning route when you pop out and find that you are identical to
how you were before. It will be a real bummer having to go through life
again with the same flaws you have now. It's far more intelligent to
find someone else and merge with them so that you will feel fresh and
new, and will have the energy to go around the wheel again. If you come
out cloned, it'd be awfully depressing and would get old very quick.

> Because it seems to me, theoretically, that to solve Cancer or solve
> Alzheimers yet never addressing the fact that these persons are old aged
> and how can you solve cancer yet not solve old age, is rather
> hypocritical.

Cancer is not isolated to old age. Alzheimers is a big problem in terms
of care management. Either the children of the Alzheimers patient have
to change their lives in order to provide care for their parent, or they
have to spend a lot of money and there have to be big operations setup
to provide care for them. Accepting the fact that you will get old, fall
apart as you go, and die is one thing. But right now for our society,
diseases like this are a huge burden. So we try and find ways that will
remove or lessen the burden in order to allow our economy to operate
efficiently.

> I know of no example in history where a major Bypass was executed on a
> large problem at hand. I would like to have one for a analogy.

Titanic
"*** there's a big iceberg!"

We don't bypass things like this. Would you like to know why? It's
because we have momentum and there's not enough time to steer clear of
the obstacle before it smashes into our vessel. Our only hope is to
develop projectiles to launch at the iceberg in the hopes of destroying
enough of it to maintain our survival. Sure there might be some jagged
pieces left after our attempt to knock it down, and it might damage our
ship, but usually we can contain the floods. If we try and bypass it,
we're hit with the full blow and we go down.

> And I hate to see myself with revved brain engine whirrring at high
> speed trying to understand Alzheimers or cancer when in the final
> analysis they are never to be understood to any degree of completeness
> or satisfaction. Millions of scientists and millions of people in
> medicine who battle these diseases, I believe all of them are probably
> under a delusion that they are 100% understandable and eventually
> curable. But perhaps that is a falsehood. And like the viruses, where on
> this planet humanity has a better chance of going extinct than the
> viruses. And that in all the power of knowledge and understanding of
> viruses, we have not been able to control a single virus species. We
> tolerate and put up with viruses and we bypass them if possible.

That might be a driving force, but so what? The people who try and do
good things, volunteering, helping feed/shelter people, etc might be
under the impression that someday all misery will be cured. But of
course, pain and suffering are an essential part of existence. So should
we realize this and stop helping people? When you see someone having a
heart attack in a public setting do you realize that even if you could
help him right now, the odds are that he'll have more severe episodes
not long after saving him, so you might as well just bypass the
situation and not waste your time? We do these things because we are
human. Of course we are delusional, but it is our delusion and it
provides us with satisfaction.