Re: Where is the evidence that animal research benefits humans?

From: Steve Harris sbharris_at_ROMAN9.netcom.com (sbharris_at_ix.netcom.com)
Date: 07/18/04 

Date: 18 Jul 2004 12:00:28 -0700

Derek <derek@1066ad.com> wrote in message news:<2mjkf09ipek84pqspl0nmi14538tavd41u@4ax.com>...
> Stop lying. Here (below) is your whole quote and a link
> to it proving you did in fact write it.
>
> "Lie of omission: if the animal testing "failed", and
> is to be declared useless, then all the MUCH MORE
> EXTENSIVE human clinical trials ALSO "failed", and
> necessarily must ALSO be declared useless.
> Jonathan Ball posting as Wilson Woods http://tinyurl.com/6bpou
>
> When are you going to stop lying, Jon? You're making
> a fool of yourself now, and using the nym Wilson Woods
> instead of your real name, Jonathan Ball doesn't get you
> off the hook either. We all know you're Jonathan the liar.

COMMENT:

Why don't you guys start over? This stuff about accusing the other of
using an alias isn't going anywhere.

I read the article this whole argument is based on. Alas, it's done by
a bunch of UK animal rights activists who based their argument on a
review of historical articles in MEDLINE (ie in referenced journals)
on the contribution of animal research to various medical
developments. But most such historical surveys are IN medline
journals. They're in history books, like (for example) the story of
the discovery of vitamins E or K. Without animal studies, it wouldn't
have happened, end of story. The authors overlook a huge amount of
such nutritional stuff, and that's just for starters.

Same with anesthesia. Nobody in their right mind would have dared
knock a human out with ether unless they'd tried it first on a dog. Or
give a human a spinal injection of cocaine for a spinal block, without
trying THAT on an animal (what, do YOU want to be the first organism
to get cocaine into your spine?!). And so on. But this is all history
of medicine, not scholarly articles.

Steve

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