Re: Muslim doctors refuse to treat sinful patients

From: Beav (beavis.original_at_ntloxoworld.com)
Date: 08/10/04 

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:39:46 +0100

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:411768A4.4BB@heartmdphd.com...
> Beav wrote:
> >
> > "MU" <munospam@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> > news:fa2aequ2fo3e.8hg58p0aax43.dlg@40tude.net...
> > > On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 14:52:51 +0100, Beav wrote:
> > >
> > > > Discussing what's logical or not with a religious zealot is mutually
> > > > exclusive. to believe in god is THE most illogical thinking in
> > existence.
> > >
> > > I am not at all certain that is the case however I am certain that
logic
> > > and faith are often at opposite ends of the spiritual spectrum.
> >
> > And I don't deal with that other end. There's no logical reason to.
> > >
> > > What a great thing that is though. If logic was the way to God, think
of
> > > the billions of folks, who are not as well educated as you claim to
be,
> >
> > I made no such claim. That honour goes to one of your own. The lovely
Carol
> > T.
>
> Not that I am either Mu or Carol, however, I have not seen Carol make
> any claim that logic is required to know Christ.

Carol made the claim of being intelligent. I didn't, but it's becoming more
obvious that both you AND she are not as smart as YOU claim to be. Her
because she believes in all this tripe and you because you obviously can't
read.

  Christian participants
> in this and other threads may appear to be logical, however, all that is
> required to know Christ is to accept Him as your personal Lord and
> Savior by *faith*.

I don't do blind anything, but particularly I don't do blind faith.
>
> > > that would be incapable of using any style of logical progression to
get
> > to
> > > God. God for the intellectuals only? God for the elite?
> >
> > Trying the old "word game" ain't going to work on me. God is for anyone
who
> > wants him, and I never said otherwise, but not everyone does. Logic
tells me
> > that he should get his story straight too. If he says incest is wrong
(as an
> > example you understand) how did we all descend from A&E?
>
> This has already been addressed. You may use Google.

Cheap cop out pianoman.
>
>
> > Some brother
> > must've had some fun with his sister don't you think?
>
> Incest has happened in the course of human history as has other sins.

So it's Ok then, better tell your loyal priests it's Ok too so they can get
their dicks out in their sisters berooms instead of in the vestry.

>
> However, it is clear from the Book of Genesis that though we are all
> descendants of Adam and Eve, and they were the only humans in the Garden
> of Eden, they were not the only humans in the world outside the Garden
> of Eden.

Mmmm, I wonder where they came from?
>
> > >
> > > One of the mot compelling traits of Christ was His ability to move
freely
> > > between the intellectual and those less gifted or formally educated.
> >
> > Compelling traits??? Hells teeth, that's not much of a "trait", even *I*
can
> > do that. I do it all the time in fact. Does that make me the Messiah?
>
> No.

I've got the same traits.
>
> > His
> > > Apostles were representative of this cross section and He had room in
his
> > > Heart and Life for each of them.
> >
> > So he was a liberal. Big deal.
>
> He chose to die a horrible death so that you may be forgiven of all your
> sins.

Yeah, SURE he chose it. I'd say his dad chose FOR him.

>
> > He dueled wits with Caiphas, He accepted
> > > common fishermen as companions.
> >
> > I speak to garbage men on Wednesdays and the vicar whenever I see him.
> > Believe me, it's not something so special we have to shout about it from
the
> > rooftops. It's called "living on the real world".
>
> When was the last time you were scourged and crucified for the sins of
> others?

A week last Wednesday.

>
> > >
> > > If logic was an important component of finding one's way, then Caiphas
> > > would have never orchestrated the assassination of Christ and Peter
would
> > > have still been tossing nets into the Dead Sea.
> >
> > See above.
>
> Please do.

I did.

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