Re: How scientific are orthodox cancer treatments? by Walter Last
From: Peter Moran (moringa_at_gil.com.au)
Date: 08/12/04
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:58:13 +1000
"john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote in message
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Have a glance at this then read on.
While breast cancer is one that can recur years after treatment, causing
difficulties in determining true cure rates, survival curves do approach
that of the normal population the longer you follow patients up. This is
one way we can prove we are curing patients. Thus the twenty year disease
free survival rate of stage 1 breast cancer is around the eighty to ninety
per cent mark and nearly all the patients who are going to die from the
disease will have died by then. This then closely approximate the true cure
rate.
Independent statistics from America, England, Australia and Scandinavia also
show that overall mortality rates from breast cancer are clearly declining,
despite a still increasing incidence. That is partly due to earlier
detection and partly better treatment.
With other cancers, five year disease-free survival rates equate to cure
rates e.g. bowel cancer, which has a fifty per cent cure rate overall (i.e.
including metastatic disease at presentation).
This has been clearly shown in readily available data but alt.med propaganda
will never refer to those studies. Why????? Why do these ignoramuses
work against the early detection and treatment of cancer when we can prove
this will cost some women their lives?
Also completely ignored by this particular jackass is the palliative role of
medical treatments in cancer. We may use radical treatments such as
mastectomy along with radiotherapy and chemotherapy in some patients with
cancers that have been found too late (probably these days because of
alternative propaganda) in order to prevent the woman ending up with
painful, smelly, discharging, ulcerating breast masses. We want to do this
even if we know the chances of cure are slender, because it eliminates one
source of utter misery for the patient . You can actually see what happens
when people entrust their lives to alternative treatments of breast and
other cancers here.
http://www.vci.org/treatmen.htm
I wish these armchair cancer experts could spend a little time in the real
world of cancer.
Peter Moran
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