Re: MD pleads politicians instead of courts
From: Robert (RobertJ_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/28/04
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:53:21 -0700
"Wolfbrother" <rangerhasten@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Lictor" <ghostmlNOSPAM-REMOVE@online.fr> wrote in message
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> > "George Conklin" <nilknoc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > > Robert has irrational fears about his health. The USA system is
hugely
> > > expensive and is set up for the benefit of providers, who are very
well
> > > organized and constantly post their complaints which never end.
> >
> > That's actually the amazing part about the US system, that it is one of
the
> > most expensive in the world *and* manages to cover only part of the
people
> > and badly. This is despite the American population being one of the
youngest
> > of the western world, and as such one of the less expensive to treat.
> > Americans keep telling us that the French system will collapse because
of
> > old people. Well, our population is already much older than theirs, and
life
> > expectancy is longer. And we have a lower GPD. Yet, it's still less
costly
> > than their system and it's behaving better. The US healthcare is already
> > collapsing, under strains that are nowhere near as intense as ours. In
the
> > meantime, ours is still holding.
> > In any other country, people would have *demanded* such a system to be
> > changed and made more efficient. That's exactly what we are seeing in
> > Canada, France and the rest of Europe. People do complain. Not because
the
> > system is bad, but because they have a very high level of expectation.
Like,
> > when my brother went through the diagnosis and preparation of his brain
> > surgery, he met no wait line at all, he had all the scanners he needed,
> > without reguard to cost, he was examined by the head of the
neuro-surgery
> > dpt himself. All this for free. Yet, my father complained. Because he
was a
> > bit rushed through the process, because my brother was frightened by the
> > whole process and cried, because the neuro-surgeon was a foreigner and
had
> > difficulties explaining things in layman terms. In other word, he wanted
> > humane treatment (which he got a few days later with the appologies from
the
> > surgeon) on top of all the rest. Because we expect as much from the
system.
> > That's the same reason Canadian doctors attack the system, even if they
love
> > it.
> > All the talks about failure of our system and need to change it doesn't
lead
> > to abandonning it, it just leads to fine tuning it to make it more
> > efficient. Sure, it's always on the "verge of collapsing". Hell, there
were
> > already these talks when socialized healthcare started one century ago.
> > That's a very slow collapse for sure... And that's exactly how you want
it.
> > If it's on the verge of collapsing, but not collapsing, it means that
it's
> > getting just the right amount of money and is at its peak efficiency.
Just
> > like using just-in time stock management is optimal for a company.
> > On the other hand, Americans have accepted that their public system is
> > worthless. They see bills for $50 nails and $2,000 hammers, and it's all
> > normal to them, it's "what you get with public systems", it's not like
they
> > could improve the system. They have accepted that it can be both
underfunded
> > *and* costly. For them, it's a given that a public system will behave
this
> > way. They don't really ask anything from it. At best, they want to drop
the
> > whole thing. And the end result is that they get exactly what they were
> > expecting : a bloated innefficient system that wasted an enormous amount
of
> > money to accomplish nothing. To think that 10% of the GPD could go to
fund
> > such a system and accomplish nothing is mind blowing to anyone ...
except a
> > Republican.
>
> Heh, you do a good job of pointing out the staggering stupidity of the
> American population. It comes from lack of concern or interest of
> important issues. It comes from being uninformed and arrogant. It
> really is sad. Americans really are clueless and they do not even
> realize it. It takes foreigners to point it out to them and they
> still do not believe. Again it is all about consolidation of money
> and power. The top 1% of the population, the ruling class controls
> 90% of the wealth and power and utterly dominates the lives and minds
> of the masses. Duping more than half of them to act and vote against
> their own interests and to instead support the interests of the ruling
> elite. This is the sad and disturbing reality of the American public.
> They do not even realize that they no longer even have the democracy
> they are so proud of. That they no longer have even the slightest
> control over their own government.
So your solution is to put health care under this government. The one you
say it has no control over, nice!!!!!!!!!
The answer is the american people are stupid so government needs to tell
them what to do. You need to find some new friends.
They think they have a choice.
> That they have two parties to chose from when in fact it is just one
> big corporate owned puppet party. One of my favorite quotes goes
> something like this and describes the situation very well:
>
> "The technique of infamy is to invent two lies and get people arguing
> heatedly over which one of them is true."
>
> This is how the truth is overcome in the US. The "two lies" is the
> two party system, created and funded by those who truly control the
> government. It is no surprise that the major funding for both parties
> comes mostly from the very same source. In a rational world such a
> thing would be illogical and impractical. But not in the USA.
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