Re: The Brain-Butchery Called PSYCHOSURGERY

From: Barbara Schwarz (StilllovingMarty_at_myway.com)
Date: 09/29/04


Date: 29 Sep 2004 13:49:49 -0700


"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<cjd4ji$es1@library1.airnews.net>...
> "Barbara Schwarz" <StilllovingMarty@myway.com> wrote in message
> news:bf456302.0409281545.355b388e@posting.google.com...
> > Pete Adams <Pete_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:<cio51g01olt@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >
> > That article is too interesting and too important to just let it fade
> > away.
> >
> > > The Brain-Butchery Called
> > >
> > >
> > > PSYCHOSURGERY
>
> > > by Lawrence Stevens, J.D.
> > >
> > > Most people think psychosurgery, or lobotomy, is not done anymore.
> > > Unfortunately, this is not true. In fact, as New York University School
> of
> > > Medicine psychiatry professors Harold I. Kaplan and Benjamin J. Sadock
> say in
> > > their textbook Clinical Psychiatry, published in 1988, "interest in
> > > psychosurgical approaches to psychiatric disorders has only recently
> been
> > > rekindled" (Williams & Wilkins, 1988, p. 381). An article in the March
> 1999
> > > Journal of Clinical Neuroscience titled "Contemporary Psychosurgery"
> says
> > > "Psychosurgery is a safe and relatively effective treatment which should
> be
> > > offered to patients with intractable obsessive compulsive disorder
> (OCD), major
> > > affective disorders, and chronic anxiety states after a minimal period
> of 2 to 5
> > > years and after all other reasonable treatments have been tried" (J.V.
> Rosenfeld
> > > & J.H. Lloyd, Departments of Neurosurgery and Neuropsychiatry, The Royal
> > > Melbourne Hospital, Parkville, Australia, J. Clin Neurosci 1999
> > > Mar;6(2):106-112).
> >
> > What it means is that when psychs to decide that after 2-5 years you
> > are not the person that they dictate you should be, those dictators
> > can just take your brains out. If that doesn't give you the chills,
> > you are nothing but a stupid psych troll.
> >
>
> They can't do these surgeries without your consent. After all other
> treatments fail.

Really, Jeff? My guess is you are trying to pull my leg. Psychs say
that those people are crazy. Those people are likely under
Guardianship. If they say they don't want the operation, the psychs
will say that they can't make that decision for themselves.

>
> And because someone puts it in textbook doesn't mean that people consent to
> the surgery or do the surgeries.

Lets say your wife (or somebody else) wants to get rid of you. First
that person will work with psychs to declare you mentally sick, and
then they take away your ability to speak for yourself, put you under
guardianship, force you to take drugs and being e-shocked, and if you
survived that, they cut your brains out.
>
> I am not saying that doing these surgeries is a good idea. Only that there
> are safeguards in place.

Not in the real world.

Barbara Schwarz
> (...)
>
> Jeff



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  • Re: The Brain-Butchery Called PSYCHOSURGERY
    ... >> They can't do these surgeries without your consent. ... If they say they don't want the operation, the psychs ... > guardianship, force you to take drugs and being e-shocked, and if you ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: The Brain-Butchery Called PSYCHOSURGERY
    ... >> They can't do these surgeries without your consent. ... If they say they don't want the operation, the psychs ... > guardianship, force you to take drugs and being e-shocked, and if you ...
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