Re: OT - Email about President Bush

From: Jeff (kidsdoc2000_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 11/04/04 

Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:39:39 -0500

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:815c94d6.0411020650.18a3a6d2@posting.google.com...
(...)

> > It is a constitutional right of women to have an abortion.
>
> Just as the government has constitutional powers to pass laws against
> physician-assisted suicide, so the government has the constitutional
> powers to pass laws against physician-assisted abortion.

Incorrect. The Supreme Court has ruled that women have a right to abortion.
Only a Constitutional change or a change in the Supreme Cout can change
that. I fear Bush's choices for the Supreme Court.

=>
> > > >
> > > > There are also laws in the Bible against taking lives.
> > >
> > > It is a sin.
> > >
> > > > More people,
> > > > including a mentally retarded man, were executed under President
than
> > any
> > > > other governor since the death penalty was reinstated.
> > >
> > > The President is not a governor.
> >
> > I apologise. I was not clear. More people were excuted under Gov. Bush
while
> > he was governor of Texas than under any other governor since the death
> > penalty was reinstated.
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out that I was not clear.
>
> Let that be a lesson to you.
>

Nice comeback. So it is ok that he let so many people be executed?

> > > > The Bible doesn't say
> > > > it is ok to kill people, even if they kill other people.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Governments have that authority given by God.
> > >
> > > Would suggest you read Romans 13. This was thoroughly discussed by me
in
> > the
> > > very large thread that is archived in Google starting with this OP:
> > >
> > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > There are international laws against going into a soverign state
without
> > > > provacation. Going into Iraq cost an estimated 100,000 Iraqi lives
and
> > over
> > > > 1,000 US lives. (The numbers from Iraq come from NPR quoting the
British
> > > > Medical Journal.)
> > > >
> > >
> > > There was a declaration of war by the U.S. against Iraq. I would
suggest
> > you
> > > review that declaration.
> >
> > Can you point me to it?
>
> Certainly. Here you go:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?C3DD121E3

That is Bush's speech to the nation. It is not a declaration of war.

Did Congress ever declare war?

> > And to the part about where Congress declared war
> > against Iraq?
>
>
> According to our Constitution, Congress belongs to the legislative
> branch of our government. This means it passes laws but plays no
> direct role in enforcing or carrying out those laws.

And when did Congress declare war against Iraq? If I am not mistaken,
Congress declared war against germany before we entered WWII. (Of course, we
are still at war against N. Korean, too).
>
>
> > > > Under Bush, there are more poor than ever. The middle class is
bringing
> > home
> > > > less money. And more people are uninsured than every before. As a
> > > > physician, one would think that you are concerned about that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > As a physician, I am more concerned about the murder of unborn
children.
> > This
> > > would be part of the Hippocratic Oath I swore upon becoming a physican
> > more than
> > > a decade ago:
> > >
> > > http://www.heartmdphd.com/hippocrates.asp
> >
> > Having taken the oath myself, I am quite aware of the oath. Thanks.
>
> You seem to have forgotten it.

No I haven't. You have have forgotten that the oath is non-binding. Many
urologists break the part about removing bladder stones, too.

> > > >
> > > > And, college is less affordable than ever before.
> > > >
> > > > Under Bush, in his no drug company left behind act, he made it
illegal
> > for
> > > > Medicare and Medicaid to negoiate for better drug prices. Thanks to
> > Bush, a
> > > > lot of old people have to choose between medication and dinner.
> > > >
> > > > As a physician, one would think that you are concerned about that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Enter the 2PD Approach:
> > >
> > > http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
> > >
> > > People need a lot less medications (and many come off of medications)
as
> > they
> > > reach "ideal" body weight.
> >
> > I am quite well aware of this too. That doesn't do squat for older
people
> > with arthritis,
>
> Ime, it does.

Except that people with arthritis can't excercise well. And it doesn't help
the inflammation with rheumatoid arthritis.

> > heart disease,
>
> Ime, it does.

Depends on the cause.

> > cancer,
>
> Ime, it does help to prevent this.

Yeah, but it is too late to preven it once you have it.

Are you suggesting that you only want to prevent diseases and don't care how
much old people have to pay?

> > or other diseasaes.
>
> If you specifically name them, we certainly can discuss them.
>
> > Nor does it
> > excuse Bush for his drug company welfare act.
>
> Laws are passed by Congress.

And signed by the President. And President Bush promoted the drug company
welfare act.

> > > >
> > > > President Bush has made it so that scientists can't do stem-cell
> > research
> > > > without using clearly inadequate stem cell lines or private funds.
Not
> > only
> > > > does this take stem-cell research out of government review, but
many
> > > > diseases like heart disease, alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease may
> > remain
> > > > uncured longer than necessary.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Speaking as a highly trained physician-scientist, the cure for heart
> > disease,
> > > Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease will not come from stem cell
research.
> >
> > I have my doubts that it will. However, we don't know if we don't try.
>
> Some things we know before we try.

Actually, we don't. We can predict, but the way to determine if those
predictions are true is with experiments.

> > In
> > addition, stem cell research may help us understand these diseases
better.
>
> Cell culture is routinely performed without stem cells.

And cell culture without stem cells will not answer all of the questions.

>
> > > >
> > > > President Bush worked quickly and secretly to make sure that the
rights
> > of
> > > > American's privacy were reduced after 9/11 as well as the rights of
> > > > noncitizens to a swift trial (or any trial), representation or
freedom
> > from
> > > > turture and unreasonable questioning.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is to be expected of a war-time president.
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > I don't agree.
>
> Your choice.

So you think it is ok to secretly take away rights of citizens.

How sad.

> > > >
> > > > It seems the only life Bush cares about are the lives of the rich
and
> > > > unborn.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It seems he also cared about the oppression of the Iraqi people. Just
as
> > it
> > > seems he cares about families of those who have or will lose loved
ones to
> > acts
> > > of terrorism.
> >
> > No. Read his State of the union address before he went into Iraq as well
as
> > other addresses at the time.
>
> I have.
>
> From President Bush:
>
> "To all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces now in the
> Middle East, the peace of a troubled world and the hopes of an
> oppressed people now depend on you."

The fact that he recognizes that Iraqis are oppressed doesn't mean he cares.

> > While there is no doubt that he knew Hussain
> > was a tryrant, the reason why he went in was WMD.
>
> There were many reasons to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

The one he used to justify it was WMD. There weren't any.

And for 100,000 people, well let's just say they aren't oppressed any more.

Jeff

> You remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Christ's holy
> name.
>
> May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so
> that you too will escape satan's rule and torment of your soul after
> you die.
>
> Please do consider the following before it is too late:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
>
>
> Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
> http://www.heartmdphd.com/
>
> **
> Who is the humblest person in the universe?
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
>
> What is all this about?
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48
>
> Is this spam?
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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