Re: How to Become a Christian, Version 1.01
From: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (nospam6_at_heartmdphd.com)
Date: 11/16/04
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Date: 16 Nov 2004 13:49:04 -0800
"menu boy" <ilmobixMYLIFE@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Woujd.3372$XQ1.606@trndny03>...
> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message news:418E34DD.328A@heartmdphd.com...
> > menu boy wrote:
> > >
> > > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:815c94d6.0410151508.613e9ae2@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Bob (this one)" <Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<10n05vlra6euhad@corp.supernews.com>...
> > > > > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob (this one)" <Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<10lkc3n375rmv17@corp.supernews.com>...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <snipped --> http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y29152A69>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>Gotcha. God can contradict himself
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>He could but He doesn't.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>So it's not ok to resist authorities but if you do, and it works, then
> > > > > >>it was ok to resist authority. No contradiction there, huh Sparky...?
> > > > > >>Sounds like Machiavelli, not God. Sun Tsu, not Jesus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <snipped --> http://makeashorterlink.com/?B13425869>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In our discussions, it should now be clear to you that God's Word on
> > > > > > this is that it is *not* ok for an *individual* to resist authority.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's precisely what I've been saying. I take it further to include
> > > > > two or more *individuals*, as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > But you're adding to God's word because the citation in Romans doesn't
> > > > > limit itself to *individuals*. It's speaking in the imperative to an
> > > > > understood "you." That's everybody. Alone or together.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Recall the analogy of your being pulled over for speeding. Go ahead
> > > > > > and resist and get back to us about what happens to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > How silly. So you're saying that if I had three friends with me and
> > > > > resisted, that would be ok. Brilliant. Your logic collapses under its
> > > > > own weight.
> > > >
> > > > If you have God's blessing by being in the right, you may be part of a
> > > > group of people complaining about being pulled over wrongly in a
> > > > "speed trap." And with God's blessing, your collective appeals to the
> > > > authority may very well have a different outcome than your individual
> > > > attempt to resist authority.
> > > >
> > > > Truth is simple.
> > >
> > > Once again, dear Andrew, you are confusing truth with fact.
> >
> > For those who can discern the truth, there is no confusing the truth
> > with anything.
>
> And what, pray tell, gives you the ability to discern truth?
You probably mean "Who?"
Answer: God.
> > > How many
> > > individuals have challenged a law and won in court?
> >
> > Challenging a law is authorized and is not an action against authority
> > but one in accord with authority.
>
> Says who?
The laws that govern.
> If I challenge Hitler, am I wrong?
Hitler is not law for two reasons:
(1) He is dead.
(2) Even if he were living, he was not "law" though he had in his time
the authority to enforce the laws that governed his people.
> Oh please.
Truth is simple.
> > > Obviously, more than
> > > your brain could figure out.
> >
> > Your judgment.
>
> Your response....or lack of.
It is my choice.
> >
> > > How many laws have been overturned by
> > > the Supreme Court? Do any of these things ever enter your mind???
> >
> > See above.
>
> So by that logic, Moses should never have challenged the Egyptians.
People are not laws.
> Well, I guess he's burning in hell now.
Would leave that for God to decide/judge.
Indeed it is written in Ephesians 2:
10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good
works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
All is a waste of time until you find the way to eternal life with the
Creator of the universe. When you do, there is no waste of time
because there will be an infinite amount of it. Walking about
aimlessly thinking it is *your* time, *your* money, *your* lot, *your*
labor, *your* profit, and *your* power that you are using is
tantamount to self-worship.
For Christ lights up the way through John 14:
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me..."
This bring us back again to the following very simple decision tree
for the untruthful folks such as yourself, neighbor, who have chosen
to walk in the "dark":
(1) Accept Christ.
Risk: Nothing.
Benefits: Salvation, purposeful life, eternal life, unimaginable
riches in God's eternal kingdom.
(2) Reject Christ.
Risk: Eternal separation from God. Eternal torment of your soul by
satan.
Benefits: Nothing.
Again, one has to conclude that those (ie you, Carey, Steve, Bob, Zee,
Frank, Hawki, Don et al) who would reject Christ have not thought out
their decision *logically*.
Would suggest you cast a glance at Bob Pastorio as a special example
of untruthfully eloquent self-worship (BTW, Bob remains in my prayers
out of Christian love) who is being driven to madness by my ignoring
him (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V29A236C9 and more recently
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W3D612CC9). All this power belongs to
God who has judged Bob Pastorio with His Word
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?G33F51E69). All praises to Him, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.
May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so
that you too will escape satan's rule and torment of your soul after
you die.
Please do consider the following as your logic should dictate before
it is too late:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
(Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He
is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger
sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and
satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ
did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
-- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867
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