Re: Two pounds a day

From: GaryG (sorrynoemail_at_NOSPAMX.com)
Date: 02/16/05 

Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:50:58 -0800

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1108385968.14177e5a367ab8a7baadb26b55852032@teranews...
> GaryG wrote:
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:1108359901.09c997c34a1ffb858efe444a78c614a6@teranews...
> > > GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "John" <john9212112@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:vc50119mrf5tm6f084ueq9ttrsujl38vgt@4ax.com...
> > > > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:22:53 -0800, "GaryG"
<sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > >news:1108327640.8aaf75fec30277bda1cd50a1c1593aed@teranews...
> > > > > >> "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > <hiss sputter hiss hiss Hitler ate two pounds of chocolate a
day
> > hiss
> > > > > >sputter hiss hiss He's my hero hiss sputter hiss hiss>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wow, Andy. Besides cross-posting, you're now engaged in a
blatant
> > lie.
> > > > > >AFAIK, Bob has never asserted that Hitler is his hero. Your lie
is
> > very
> > > > > >"un-Christian", but understandable given your current state of
mind
> > > > (you're
> > > > > >clearly upset by Bob's posts, but that does not justify lying).
> > > > >
> > > > > v. lied, ly·ing, (lng) lies
> > > > > v. intr.
> > > > > 1.To present false information with the intention of deceiving.
> > > > > 2.To convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie.
> > > > >
> > > > > So where exactly is Dr. Chung's intent of deceiving?
> > > >
> > > > He lied when he asserted that Hitler is Bob's hero...that meets the
> > > > definition you've posted ("to convey a false image or impression").
> > > >
> > > > Of course, you could also call it "hyperbole in the service of
> > Christ"...in
> > > > the psychiatric profession that's known as "positive reframing"
> > (something
> > > > Chung does quite often). But I'm no shrink, so I'll continue to
call it
> > a
> > > > lie (unless Andy can come up with a link showing where Bob posts
> > anything
> > > > admiring about Hitler).
> > > >
> > >
> > > It remains my choice to write truthfully.
> > >
> >
> > But that's the point, Andy...you clearly did not "write truthfully" when
you
> > wrote that Bob admires Hitler. To prove that you wrote truthfully, all
you
> > would have to do is provide us with some links to any posts where Bob
stated
> > an admiration for Hitler. But, you can't do so...instead, you simply
repeat
> > yourself (as if that will make the lie go away).
> >
> > However, given your mental state, I can certainly understand your
reticence
> > in admitting your error.
> >
> > GG
>
> GaryG wrote:
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:1108359901.09c997c34a1ffb858efe444a78c614a6@teranews...
> > > GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "John" <john9212112@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:vc50119mrf5tm6f084ueq9ttrsujl38vgt@4ax.com...
> > > > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:22:53 -0800, "GaryG"
<sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > >news:1108327640.8aaf75fec30277bda1cd50a1c1593aed@teranews...
> > > > > >> "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > <hiss sputter hiss hiss Hitler ate two pounds of chocolate a
day
> > hiss
> > > > > >sputter hiss hiss He's my hero hiss sputter hiss hiss>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wow, Andy. Besides cross-posting, you're now engaged in a
blatant
> > lie.
> > > > > >AFAIK, Bob has never asserted that Hitler is his hero. Your lie
is
> > very
> > > > > >"un-Christian", but understandable given your current state of
mind
> > > > (you're
> > > > > >clearly upset by Bob's posts, but that does not justify lying).
> > > > >
> > > > > v. lied, ly·ing, (lng) lies
> > > > > v. intr.
> > > > > 1.To present false information with the intention of deceiving.
> > > > > 2.To convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie.
> > > > >
> > > > > So where exactly is Dr. Chung's intent of deceiving?
> > > >
> > > > He lied when he asserted that Hitler is Bob's hero...that meets the
> > > > definition you've posted ("to convey a false image or impression").
> > > >
> > > > Of course, you could also call it "hyperbole in the service of
> > Christ"...in
> > > > the psychiatric profession that's known as "positive reframing"
> > (something
> > > > Chung does quite often). But I'm no shrink, so I'll continue to
call it
> > a
> > > > lie (unless Andy can come up with a link showing where Bob posts
> > anything
> > > > admiring about Hitler).
> > > >
> > >
> > > It remains my choice to write truthfully.
> > >
> >
> > But that's the point, Andy...you clearly did not "write truthfully" when
you
> > wrote that Bob admires Hitler.
>
> In truth, I did not write that Bob admires Hitler. That was how you
> chose to interpret what I have written.

Any normal person would interpret your post as an assertion that Bob admires
Hitler, and it's clearly the impression you wished to imply when you wrote
it in anger.

That you wish to deny your previous actions is understandable...but, it
still does not absolve you of the sin of false witness.

You'll undoubtedly deny it once again, as you always do <shrug>.

GG

>
>
> > To prove that you wrote truthfully, all you
> > would have to do is provide us with some links to any posts where Bob
stated
> > an admiration for Hitler.
>
> It seems that you could "prove" why *you* believe the "he" in "he's my
> hero" is Hitler by the subject of Bob's post. That does not mean it is
> what I believe.
>
>
> > But, you can't do so...instead, you simply repeat
> > yourself (as if that will make the lie go away).
>
> Truth is invariant.
>
>
> > However, given your mental state, I can certainly understand your
reticence
> > in admitting your error.
>
> It remains my choice to write truthfully. Sorry.
>

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