Re: Illegal Aliens and American Medicine
From: Moderate Mammal (BunnERabbit_at_verizon.hutch.net)
Date: 03/15/05
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Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:11:00 GMT
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:53:41 GMT, "--=Cochise~<|||<®>|||>~Guardian=--"
<jay*--REMOVE--*@alaskamail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:56:16 -0500, "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"brit am" <brit_am@home.net> wrote in message
>>news:n2oZd.46730$%Y4.12569@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4235eb7f$0$88043$16897aa@news.airnews.net...
>>>>
>>>> "H. Reader" <historyreader@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:qukZd.4164$GI6.62@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>> (...)
>>>>
>>>>> What? They're ILLEGAL FRIGGIN' ALIENS. They
>>>>> DESERVE deportation, period.
>>>>
>>>> They deserve to be treated as human beaings. PERIOD.
>>>>
>>>> I am no better than they.
>>>>
>>>>>>> What is unseen is their free medical care that has degraded and closed
>>>>>>> some of America's finest emergency medical facilities, and caused
>>>>>>> hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospitals are closing their
>>>>>>> doors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Illegal aliens are not the only reason why these hospitals are closing
>>>>>> their doors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> So decreasing insurance payments have nothing to do with it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> "Anchor babies" born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as
>>>>>>> citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in
>>>>>>> Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and
>>>>>>> Disability Income.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not just illegal aliens and anchor babies who have caused
>>>>>> difficulties in Medicaid.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we should put up with illegal aliens and anchor babies because
>>>>> they don't comprise the entire problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, we should help illegal aliens because they are human beings.
>>>>
>>>> And they do the jobs that Americans don't want to do.
>>>
>>> A complete load of rubbish. You mean 'jobs that Americans don't want to
>>> do' such as formerly well-paying jobs such as carpenters, masons,
>>> electricians, painters, and various other jobs. Who did the jobs
>>> Americans don't want before illegals turned up?
>>
>>There are not that many jobs people want to do. That is why the get paid.
>
>Where do you come up with this crap? Are you nuts?
>
>>
>>I think the key words are 'formally well-paying jobs.' Immigrants do them
>>because they like to eat. And the employers get more work for less. So the
>>people who use the endproduct benefit (or the employers get more profit).
>
>Bullshit...... the consumer benefits little or not at all from the presence of these lawbreaking
>bloodsuckers.... in fact the consumer is losing big time, given the social costs associated to the
>border-hopping cancer. The greedy-assed growers benefit, though.
>
Yup:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/s_282131.html
The high costs of low-priced produce
By Dimitri Vassilaros
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, December 12, 2004
The more you learn about illegal immigration, the less you should like
it. Chances are you never cared much for it in the first place.
The Migrant Education Program gives you 897,000 more reasons to be
disgusted by the stealth invasion from Mexico.
Taxpayers paid $393,600,000 last year to educate many of the roughly
900,000 eligible offspring of migrant workers in America. All of whom
could be in this country illegally.
"Could," because thanks to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1982, Plyler
v. Doe, the government is not even allowed to ask parents if they are
here illegally before they sign up for the government program.
Children ages 3 through 21 are entitled to a free education just
because they are here. Even if the 21-year-old is married. And has
children.
Services include tutorial programs, after-school extended hours,
summer programs, in-home programs, health and social support services,
parental involvement, advocacy, language arts and, of course,
enrichment.
What? No frequent-flier miles on AeroMexico?!
The MEP "Artistas del Verano" program is "to increase the self-esteem
and cultural awareness of migrant teenagers through the visual arts
and academic enrichment. Participants were encouraged to study their
own culture and bring to the design of the murals an image or icon to
represent themselves."
The College Assistance Migrant Program is "a federally funded program
designed for first-year college students from migrant and seasonal
farm worker families. Pennsylvania's CAMP program is located at Penn
State University. Established in 1972, CAMP has been available at Penn
State since 1993. CAMP offers pre-college transition and first-year
support services to help students develop the skills they need to stay
in college and graduate."
High school dropouts do not fall through the cracks. They are offered
alternatives, according to Suzanne E. Benchoff, director of migrant
services. She oversees the implementation of the program in 30
Pennsylvania counties.
"We offer Web-based cyber schools to earn a Mexican high school
diploma. They are provided with laptop computers, and our centers have
high-speed DSL and T1 lines."
Ay caramba.
Apologists for illegal immigration (usually leaders of the two
dominant political parties) tell you that foreigners are needed to do
the work that lazy Americans will not do.
Well, the American worker is not lazy -- and he is not stupid. The
reason low-paying jobs go wanting is that the pay is too low. Am I
going too fast for the defenseless-borders crowd?
The more illegals that flood in, the more low-paying jobs there will
be because employers will be less inclined to offer good wages. It
becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If there were no illegal immigrants, every job would pay what it would
be worth. Prices of some items would increase, but at least then you
would know the real cost of a carrot, potato or onion without the de
facto subsidization of illegal labor.
Every taxpayer pays for the hidden costs of these illegals so
agribusiness and other labor-intensive conglomerates do not have to
offer fair wages.
But every once in a while you get a glimpse of the high costs of
low-priced produce. Like maybe 21 years' worth of education costs for
up to 900,000 foreigners annually. And counting.
-------------------------------------
Fed up with illegal immigration?
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http://www.saveourstate.org
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frostyA.htm
http://www.americanpatrol.com/LINKS/LINKS.html
http://www.vdare.com/links.htm
http://www.stoptheinvasion.com/links/
_____
"Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death
of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
_____
"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon
_____
"I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature
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