Re: What percentage of kids are not toilet trained by age four?


johngilmer@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Does anyone have any info on this topic? Out daughter turned 4 this
> past October (2005). We trained our first daughter at 27 months and it
> was quick and painless. We started our second daughter when she was
> about 27 months. It's now almost 2 years later and she still has many
> accidents a day. We've tried everything we can think of and nothing
> seems to work. We can't tell if she knows when she needs to pee/poop
> and just doesn't care, or if she really can't tell. She has
> occasionally had good periods where she has gone for weeks without an
> accident. So that has made us think she is able, but just isn't
> motivated. But she seems to want to not have accidents and it honestly
> seems like she has no idea she needs to go. Even after she goes,
> she'll be damp 30 minutes later, which mean the pee is "trickling"
> rather than being "saved up" for an hour or two like it should. She is
> developmentally normal in every other way. We
> went to the doctor to see if she had any physiological problems but he
> didn't find any. But he was a family practitioner rather than a
> pediactric urologist. They even did an ultrasound. I am wondering if
> we should go to a specialist or whether she is still in the "normal"
> range of kids who don't have control, in which case we should just wait
> it out. How old do you think she should be before we see a specialist?
> Thanks in advance.

This link is from Johns Hopkins pediatric urology. They say it's not
abnormal until after age 5, so presumably that's the age to see a
specialist about it.

http://urology.jhu.edu/pediatric/diseases/enuresis.php

And I learned this the hard way: Diapers and pull-ups draw the
moisture away from the skin and delay potty training for some kids by
making accidents comfortable. I think many kids need accidents to feel
uncomfortably wet and messy to help them learn awareness. Even the
pull-ups with "feel wet liners" don't feel nearly as wet and messy as
icky stuff dripping down your legs.

Good luck :)

--Patti

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