Re: Swelling while on a cruise

In article <e64r550247j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Pete" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article <2006Jun6.081022.17303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
bae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

In article
<jason-0506062056280001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jason
Johnson <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <2006Jun5.210604.28073@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
bae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

In article
<jason-0506061518330001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jason
Johnson <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <2006Jun5.173704.22948@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
bae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Jason, imagine that you are in an unfamiliar city, and can't find an
address you urgently need to get to. You ask someone on the street
for advice.

Which result would you prefer:

(1) The person gives you detailed instructions that turn out to be
so wrong that you end up much farther away from your destination
than when you started.

(2) The person says "I'm sorry, I don't know where that is. You'll
have to find a map or someone who does know."

I would choose number 2--that's why I told the poster to go to their
doctor to find out the cause of the edema.

No, what you did was more like (1) followed by "or you could look at
a map." Bad advice is *worse* than no advice.

I answered your question so please answer my question. In the
majority of your newsgroup posts, do you try to help people or do
you criticize
posters?

I try to help people, just as I'm trying to help you understand why
so many knowledgable people object to your efforts to do so.

Bad advice, even if motivated by a sincere desire to help someone,
is *worse* than no advice.

I feel sorry for people that visit newsgroup just to criticize
posters.

I'm trying to explain things to you, to help you and advise you. This
is not criticism.

I have lots of respect for the members of newsgroups that try to help
people even if they sometimes make mistakes.

If you keep track of who posts what, you should have plenty of respect
for the people who you say are criticizing you, and take their good
advice.

If you honestly believe that I am the only person that makes
mistakes, i advise you to do a google search on these terms:
malpractice
medical malpractice
Over the years, I have read newspaper stories related to doctors that
have done some really terrible things such as cutting off the wrong
limbs and prescribing the wrong sorts of medications that had a
similar name. One of my co-workers developed minor chest pains and
the boss had his wife pick him up and take him directly to see his
doctor. The doctor did a quick check (about 10 minutes or less as per
his wife) and told him that it was heartburn. About one week later,
my friend had a massive heart attack and died before the ambulance
arrived.
His wife filed a malpractice lawsuit but is not allowed to tell us how
much money that she received from the doctor's malpractice insurance
company. Doctors make serious mistakes that cause people to die or to
be disabled on a regular basis--that's why the malpractice insurance
rates keep going higher and higher and higher. In every large city,
there are lawyers that specialize in filing malpractice lawsuits
against doctors that cause their patients to die or to become
disabled. One of the local surgeons had so many malpractice lawsuits
that he now works in the local prison since it means he no longer has
to have malpractice insurance. If you want to criticize people,
criticize doctors that cause their patients to die or to become
disabled.
Jason

Jason...I have tried to help you in the BPH group, and I told you in this ng
that your intentions were good (but misplaced) , but now I clearly see that
you have a problem.

I don't know what else to say right now other than to say you should try to
cut back on some of your medical advice, and try to just present your
personal experiences, but not try to diagnose people, or give them any
medical advice. Naturally it is okay to say "I recommend you see a doctor"
(which you have done), because that is harmless in itself. But to go beyond
that (like you have done in the past), is not a good thing to do, and could
be harmful.

I still think your heart is in the right place, but I think you need to
re-evaluate what everyone is trying to tell you. I am not trying to
criticize you or be a "net cop" as you call it. I am trying to help. Take
care :-) ...Pete

Pete,
Thanks for your post. Your advice makes sense. I have cut back on my posts
related to providing advice. I don't believe that you are a net cop. I
only call people net cops when I notice that they NEVER use their medical
knowledge to provide advice and help but instead use their medical
knowledge to attack people that do provide advice and help. I have noticed
that you do use your medical knowledge to provide advice and help so
therefore I don't consider you a net cop. Keep up the great work. I only
wish that you and everyone else would also remind other people that
provide bad advice or information to stop it. I saw a post several days
ago where someone stated that there was no disorder that was called
"Iron-Deficiency Anemia" and none of posters reminded him that there was
such a disorder. I see posts in medical related newsgroups on a regular
basis that have incorrect information. I hope that you also start
reminding those people to stop posting incorrect information in their
posts.
Jason
Jason
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